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Official Devin Harris thread

r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
This guy put up a 21.6 PER his first full season in New Jersey, and made the all-star team. That is comparable to anything Deron has done, even this year (22.1, currently).

I don't watch the Nets (duh, who does?) so I have no idea why he's down these past two seasons. Anyone know?
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Extremely up-and-down and has had to be pulled aside to have his bitching and moaning put in check. This kind of behavior has been happening for the last two years.

But he's had some good seasons and has some good tools. We'll see how it goes, but him playing here seems like a huge waste of resources to me.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Extremely up-and-down and has had to be pulled aside to have his bitching and moaning put in check. This kind of behavior has been happening for the last two years.

But he's had some good seasons and has some good tools. We'll see how it goes, but him playing here seems like a huge waste of resources to me.
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Waste of resources? What do you mean?
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Waste of resources? What do you mean?
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Committing significant salary and time to a player in his prime when the Jazz are clearly rebuilding and could probably net financial savings, youth, and/or picks if they got rid of him. That jives a lot more with rebuilding and having all of your players hit at the right time.

And yes, I know management is pretending that losing the longest-tenured coaches in pro sports, the franchise player, and basically everything in the last two years is not rebuilding.
 
NUMBERICA said:
And yes, I know management is pretending that losing the longest-tenured coaches in pro sports, the franchise player, and basically everything in the last two years is not rebuilding.
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The Jazz may eventually "rebuild", but as it stands now they have:

  • Three former all-stars, at PG, SF, and C, all 31 and younger
  • Another 26 yr old near-all-star playing in the post
  • Another up and coming PF
  • The third pick of the last draft as a backstop
  • A never-ending trainwreck at the wing (a lot of upcoming draft picks to clean this up)
  • Shaq2 in waiting at backup-backup center

Call me a pollyanna, but if they can get some of this s*** to come together, why can't they be good again, and soon?
 
For some perspective, here are some cherrypicked PG 2010-2011 PER numbers:

  • Deron, 22.1
  • Curry, 19.9
  • Rondo 18.5
  • Harris, 18.0
  • Lawson, 17.2
  • Wall, 15.3
  • Kidd, 15.1
  • Nelson, 15.1
  • "Average Player", 15.0
  • Maynor, 11.4
  • Watson, 10.6
  • Price, -902830498230948203948.23
 
Harris is a good player and I've always thought that. I just don't see his being here now helping with the longterm goal of winning a championship. And I don't think he's stoked to be here, either, but I could be wrong.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Harris is a good player and I've always thought that. I just don't see his being here now helping with the longterm goal of winning a championship. And I don't think he's stoked to be here, either, but I could be wrong.
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He was in New Jersey before. It's like going from a trash heap to a freshly cleaned bathroom. It's not great but it's still an upgrade.
 
unluckyseventeen said:
He was in New Jersey before. It's like going from a trash heap to a freshly cleaned bathroom. It's not great but it's still an upgrade.
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It depends on how you look at it, honestly. But for MOST people, Utah is a weird, white, boring place. Even if it has cool scenery and it's safer.

And I think Harris might welcome the trade if the Jazz were still the Jazz and not whatever floundering mess this team and franchise are now.
 
Harris will get after it both offensively and defensively. Very quick to the basket, and always uptempo. He should add more excitement to our starting unit; Williams did not seem real enthused about the quicker tempo thing...
 
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