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And hey, I don't know which conference is better out of the pac12 and big 12 or even the sec for that matter.

It's college football. All the college teams from each conference don't play all the teams from the other conferences. There really is no way to know for sure. It's part of what sucks about college football.

Just like everyone said the utes in 04 and 08 were not good enough to beat the big dogs, and then in 08 they destroyed Alabama. Same with Boise a couple of those years.

Allot of opinions in college football have no way to get validated on the field.


I think that the top of the big 12 is better than the pac, but the bottom and middle is worse.... But again, there is know way to know if either of those things are true

I agree that Baylor and TCU are probly better than anyone in the PAC this year, but I think the PAC 12 is much stronger as a whole, and neither of those teams would go undefeated if they were in the PAC 12
 
Lol at anybody who accuses the PAC of being down this year and then refuses to admit that the SEC is down as well.

The SEC East is an absolute JOKE. Florida is the best team by a mile on that side of the conference and they're a limited, 1 dimensional football team. Their offense makes Utah's look like Baylor-Lite. Georgia was gigantically overrated, yet again, Missouri sucks, Tenn sucks, SC sucks, Vandy sucks......

On the West side, A&M ain't reppin' the SEC in the playoffs, 'Bama has more QB struggles than normal and is not nearly as complete as they usually are, yet they still might be better than LSU, Ole Miss can't win in the road at G5 Memphis, and MSU will finish with 4 conference losses in a year in which none of their conference opponents are great. Hell, I damn near forget to mention what a **** show Auburn is this year.

If Utah doesn't end up in the Rose Bowl, I PRAY they somehow luck into a bowl matchup vs Miss State. Automatic bowl win and yet another chance to feed the SEC apologists some humble pie.
 
Lol at anybody who accuses the PAC of being down this year and then refuses to admit that the SEC is down as well.

The SEC East is an absolute JOKE. Florida is the best team by a mile on that side of the conference and they're a limited, 1 dimensional football team. Their offense makes Utah's look like Baylor-Lite. Georgia was gigantically overrated, yet again, Missouri sucks, Tenn sucks, SC sucks, Vandy sucks......

On the West side, A&M ain't reppin' the SEC in the playoffs, 'Bama has more QB struggles than normal and is not nearly as complete as they usually are, yet they still might be better than LSU, Ole Miss can't win in the road at G5 Memphis, and MSU will finish with 4 conference losses in a year in which none of their conference opponents are great. Hell, I damn near forget to mention what a **** show Auburn is this year.

If Utah doesn't end up in the Rose Bowl, I PRAY they somehow luck into a bowl matchup vs Miss State. Automatic bowl win and yet another chance to feed the SEC apologists some humble pie.
I agree. I think the sec and pac12 are down a bit this year while the big12 and big 10 are on the upswing a bit. Then the acc has clemson and Florida state looking good.

For my opinion (which don't mean ****) I have the sec #1, the pac #2, the big 12 #3, big 10 #4, acc #5.
But due to the pac and sec not being as dominant as in the past, combined with the big 12, big 10, and acc having legit title contenders and heavy at the top.... The conferences are bunched much closer together this season
 
It's not that their down it's that there is a lot of parity and any team in the Pac 12 can beat any team in the conference on any Saturday, same with the SEC. Regardless of rank you can and will get beat if you don't come ready to play which is what I love about college football. What's the point of watching the games if the outcomes should be pre determined on paper? I don't care how teams win I only care that they do win. I don't care if it's by a half a point, a win is a win, because it's hard to win football games.
 
I agree. I think the sec and pac12 are down a bit this year while the big12 and big 10 are on the upswing a bit. Then the acc has clemson and Florida state looking good.

For my opinion (which don't mean ****) I have the sec #1, the pac #2, the big 12 #3, big 10 #4, acc #5.
But due to the pac and sec not being as dominant as in the past, combined with the big 12, big 10, and acc having legit title contenders and heavy at the top.... The conferences are bunched much closer together this season

The Big 10 is better than the Big 12. SEC is overrated I think the Pac has parity with them. We will see when the bowl games happen. SEC probably gets overrated again and loses a bunch.
 
It's not that their down it's that there is a lot of parity and any team in the Pac 12 can beat any team in the conference on any Saturday

I knew you would say that
 
I do think the PAC is doing just fine with parity when you compare it to the other P5's, but with Oregon and USC being "down", it's hard not to argue that the conference isn't seen as powerful as last year. Utah, Stanford, Wazzu have all improved this year, but on the flip side of that, Oregon, USC, UA, and ASU have all stumbled backwards.

Just like last year, I think PAC will represent just fine come bowl season. And also just like last year, I think the SEC will underwhelm.
 
Mississippi State recruiting their asses off in basketball. Won't be too much longer until Miss St is better than Utah in Basketball also.
 
The Big 12 has been big time disrespected by the committee. Two one loss teams ahead of an undefeated Big 12 team? ha ha.

The PAC-12 comes down to a couple of things:

1 - Stanford HAS to beat Notre Dame. If Stanford beats ND, they jump up into ND's spot. Alabama plays LSU and one team has to lose. That puts ND at #4, and if Stanford wins, it puts Stanford at #4.

2- The champ then has to have one loss. IF Stanford beats ND, they go into the PAC-12 playoff ranked #4. IF Utah wins out, they go into the PAC-12 title game ranked in the top 10. The winner of that game goes to the playoffs.

The point is, the PAC-12 holds their fate in their own hands. If the champ has one loss, they will be in. At the end of the year, a Utah Champ will have played ranked Michigan, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Cal. That is five teams that were ranked at game time or ranked at the end of the year. And that doesn't include the title game. That means in 13 games, almost half were vs ranked-level teams.

A one loss PAC-12 champ gets in. If Stanford beats ND, it looks like a one loss PAC-12 champ would get in over an undefeated Big 12 team.

I'm not worried. Just win.
 
I won't say Utah controls their own fate. Because the Big 12 champ COULD win out, LSU COULD win out, etc. I just really don't think they all will. I'm confident we get in if we win out, but we don't control our own fate.
 
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