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side note: It's crazy hearing Frank Zappa tunes where he rips on San Fran, and I'm listening to it, and I'm like "man-- all of this stuff is dead". RIP, Frank. He'd probably be furious with all of this rampant gentrification going down.

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnjufR8GDcw
 
dalamon said:
through size. Think of the task of gentrifying all of New York vs San Fransisco.
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I dont know, that seems overly simplistic. I would have to see a paper with data to support this.

Have you ever read joel kotkin? Hes an expert on cities. His basic tenant is cities like chicago, sf, and ny become expensive because they are too dense. Cities like phoenix and houston can actually support the middle class through suburban sprawl. I think the argument that san fran is becoming too expensive is not quite right, sf has been expensive a long, long time. Now, if you are arguing places in surrounding sf like mountain view are becoming too expensive due to the tech industry, i could agree with that.
 
dalamon said:
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well, I'll close with the opinion that San Fransisco has suffered more through gentrification than New York has. Not an extreme opinion by any stretch of the imagination-- but if you disagree, then fine.
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Please go one post further. Answer these two questions, please. Where are you pulling these arguments from? What, exactly, is your evidence?
 
Carbon13 said:
I dont know, that seems overly simplistic. I would have to see a paper with data to support this.
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I unfortunately have to leave in about 2 minutes here-- it was a big subject of discussion in a college course I took a year ago. I'll see if I kept the texbook when i come back home.

Have you ever read joel kotkin? Hes an expert on cities. His basic tenant is cities like chicago, sf, and ny become expensive because they are too dense. Cities like phoenix and houston can actually support the middle class through suburban sprawl.
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This is exactly what I've been saying-- San Fransisco is more confined than New York, so it suffers more acutely from gentrification (from what I've gathered).

I think the argument that san fran is becoming too expensive is not quite right, sf has been expensive a long, long time. Now, if you are arguing places in surrounding sf like mountain view are becoming too expensive due to the tech industry, i could agree with that.
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I think the argument is that San Fran has become expensive-- apart from their strong gay culture, it's hard to think of too many more contributions that the city has made since the 60s.

NAOS said:
Please go one post further. Answer these two questions, please. Where are you pulling these arguments from? What, exactly, is your evidence?
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from what I've learned in class-- a textbook on urban planning, and gentrification. I forget the book's title, but I still should have it, along with all of the sources it has cited.
 
Carbon13 said:
But guys, i think were missing big question here. What about Houston as a cultural hub?
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their biggest contribution is a source of gravity tbh-- never seen so many overweight ppl in my life.
 
dalamon said:
from what I've learned in class-- a textbook on urban planning, and gentrification. I forget the book's title, but I still should have it, along with all of the sources it has cited.
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The dangers of literature. After one book a Canadian kid is tell me what's happening in the city I live in.

/thread.
 
Houston has been a major center for Hip Hop production. Unique stuff has absolutely come out of there. Atlanta, New Orleans, and Houston have been the main sites of a southern-styled movement.
 
dalamon said:
I unfortunately have to leave in about 2 minutes here-- it was a big subject of discussion in a college course I took a year ago. I'll see if I kept the texbook when i come back home.



This is exactly what I've been saying-- San Fransisco is more confined than New York, so it suffers more acutely from gentrification (from what I've gathered).



I think the argument is that San Fran has become expensive-- apart from their strong gay culture, it's hard to think of too many more contributions that the city has made since the 60s.



from what I've learned in class-- a textbook on urban planning, and gentrification. I forget the book's title, but I still should have it, along with all of the sources it has cited.
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Yeah please do cite the textbook. Im always up for learning new things. As for sf being more acutely affected by gentrification due its confined space, i have two things to say. 1. Sf is not more conined as it is less densely populated. 2. Ny has more fortune 500 companies than any other city.

More people + more money = more gentrification
 
Now I am arm waving too. I should have prefaced that those thoughts above are entirely my own and not from a credible information source.
 
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