Offseason - Tomorrow Begins Today

[infection]

If we guarantee Favors, can we even trade him immediately or would we have to wait til that December date that’s used for new signings?

He could be traded at any time, it’s just that in the act of trading him the contract becomes guaranteed (or it doesn’t count as outgoing salary if it isn’t).

 

[infection]

 

[Miggs]

I really like Crowder a lot but if we can trade him and sign Mrotic, that should be an upgrade.

Then, maybe we flip picks, Exum and Favors for Conley.

I’d still feel uncomfortable with our lack of depth at the 4 but that would be a start.

Conley
Mitchell-Allen
Ingles-O’Neale
Mrotic
Gobert

Our depth would be super shaky though.

 

[Miggs]

I really like Crowder a lot but if we can trade him and sign Mrotic, that should be an upgrade.

Then, maybe we flip picks, Exum and Favors for Conley.

I’d still feel uncomfortable with our lack of depth at the 4 but that would be a start.

Conley
Mitchell-Allen
Ingles-O’Neale
Mrotic
Gobert

Our depth would be super shaky though.

Yeah, if we renounced Rubio, Udoh and Sef and Korver retired and we could trade Crowder to someone with some space for next to nothing, we’d be at 77.4M. Then if we did the Conley trade, we’d be at about 83.4M or 26M under the cap.

We could sign Mirotic to 3/45 or something and still have 11-12M under the cap to fill out the roster.

 

[416Klawzz]

Crowder has got more talent than mirocrap and it ain't even close. Niko is fools gold. A brick layer when he is off, a matador defender and a big inconsistent player say no to him.

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[Jingled]

Crowder has got more talent than mirocrap and it ain't even close. Niko is fools gold. A brick layer when he is off, a matador defender and a big inconsistent player say no to him.

I completely disagree. Mirotic is a much better scorer, shooter and rebounder than Crowder.

 

[One Brow]

If we guarantee Favors, can we even trade him immediately or would we have to wait til that December date that’s used for new signings?

He would not be a new signing, so I believe we could trade him immediately.

 

[David Stern]

I think Niang showed something this year. If we can trade Crowder and get an impact player back, I think Gorgeous Georges can easily take Crowder's role.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, if we renounced Rubio, Udoh and Sef and Korver retired and we could trade Crowder to someone with some space for next to nothing, we’d be at 77.4M. Then if we did the Conley trade, we’d be at about 83.4M or 26M under the cap.

We could sign Mirotic to 3/45 or something and still have 11-12M under the cap to fill out the roster.

We would have capholds and Korver won't be completely wiped from the capsheet even if he retires. We can waive and stretch him and it is like 1.1-1.2M cap hit. All that said we could get to around 22-23M by moving Jae, Bradley (in the Conley deal hypothetically), and waiving those guys. Its worth considering.

The other option is if we traded for Conley we could do a sign and trade with Milwaukee sending Crowder out and taking back Niko... could do uneven salaries and use our cap space as the difference... at least I think that is legal. Then we'd have $10M or so for other needs.

 

[Miggs]

We would have capholds and Korver won't be completely wiped from the capsheet even if he retires. We can waive and stretch him and it is like 1.1-1.2M cap hit. All that said we could get to around 22-23M by moving Jae, Bradley (in the Conley deal hypothetically), and waiving those guys. Its worth considering.

The other option is if we traded for Conley we could do a sign and trade with Milwaukee sending Crowder out and taking back Niko... could do uneven salaries and use our cap space as the difference... at least I think that is legal. Then we'd have $10M or so for other needs.

What cap holds? The only ones are Rubio, Udoh and Sef. We can renounce them.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

What cap holds? The only ones are Rubio, Udoh and Sef. We can renounce them.

Roster spot cap holds... you have to include a $900k cap hold for up to 12 roster spots.. we'd have like 8 players on the roster under your scenario so you'd have to have around 2.7-3.6 in roster spot cap holds plus Korver's 1.1M

 

[NUMBERICA]

I think Niang showed something this year. If we can trade Crowder and get an impact player back, I think Gorgeous Georges can easily take Crowder's role.

Maybe he can take his minutes, but not his role. They are really not very similar players. I also think discounting intangibles is a mistake and I'm not sure Niang brings any.