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OKC or San Antonio?

"I'm your density," what's should be ours?

  • OKC

    Votes: 37 44.6%

  • San Antonio

    Votes: 22 26.5%

  • Please, let us get our picks!

    Votes: 24 28.9%
  • Total voters
    83
freakazoid said:
Lol, once again, for those of you who are slower than normal, this isn't just about a single pick, but the direction our FO is likely to take if we do make the playoffs.

As always, we shall find out soon enough who is right.
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It's a good thing we have smart people like you to save all the rest of us dopes (including the dopes who own and manage the team) from ourselves. I'm interested how you will ever know who is right, though, because all I will ever know is whether the path we ended up traveling worked or not.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
It's a good thing we have smart people like you to save all the rest of us dopes (including the dopes who own and manage the team) from ourselves. I'm interested how you will ever know who is right, though, because all I will ever know is whether the path we ended up traveling worked or not.
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When did you become a troll? I love your earlier work and this is kind of disappointing.
 
freakazoid said:
And who the **** said that? It's not just about the pick, but the likely direction our FO will take if this team makes the playoffs. There are several possible scenarios, but let's take a look at two. Suppose Utah loses the ONE last game they played against GS. That single game could mean going into the offseason with two lotto picks and Jefferson as trade chips. This move could have been huge in getting back into going deep in the playoffs.

But instead, now we're looking at no picks and a FO who will likely be extremely hesitant to move one of our main pieces, because they don't want to risk breaking up the chemistry of a *cough**cough* playoff team. This might all be worth it for a team that was going places, but for anyone who actually believes that about a team who loses 2/3 of their road games, there is a rude awakening coming. Next year is likely to be a repeat of this year, and it didn't have to be that way.
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Ah, so this is really all about moving Jefferson? He has value regardless of any other assets. The GS pick is flat out not in Utah's control. Losing games on purpose proves to the players that the organization is willing to quit on them regardless of how hard they work for it. That is bad business for a franchise that has a history of struggling to attract and keep players, and has the potential of nuclear level unintended consequences. What KOC is doing is much, much better for the team.

Nope, it's exactly the opposite. It's the people who can't see past this season who fail to see the big picture.
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Considering that the basic idea of promoting a post season would be the concept of the coaches and players growing and learning in the competitive pressure of a playoff series, this statement seems willfully ignorant. I don't see a lot of honks in here calling for the LOB trophy this year. Except HH that is.

Get back to me next season, after we have watched a replay of the same pretender team who can't win on the road.
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Haha, okay. This argument is getting tired.
 
for the 20 people (so far) that voted for the Spurs:

check out the insane efficiency of Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker versus the Lakers tonight:
https://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320420024
hell, look at the efficiency of the entire team.

I think I respect Popovich more than any other person affiliated with NBA. I won't cheer for him while the Jazz are still competing.... but, yeah, the dude's amazing.
 
franklin said:
When did you become a troll? I love your earlier work and this is kind of disappointing.
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You said I don't have the strategic sense to correctly set up a chess board.

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Apologize.
 
freakazoid said:
Lol, once again, for those of you who are slower than normal, this isn't just about a single pick(trade asset), but the direction our FO is likely to take if we do make the playoffs.

As always, we shall find out soon enough who is right.
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I hear you, and I like a lot about what you say.
But here's a little addition to this:
the jazz are very literally in a situation that won't allow a holding pattern. You don't let two #3 picks sit on the bench for much longer, and you don't let Al or Millsap leave without getting some assets in return. They also have a sizable TPE that gets more valuable when some team tries to shave salary for DWill and/or Howard.

I really think they can get something for Al and/or Devin that will make them players in this draft if they want to be.
 
Still think that we could exploit San Antonio's biggest weakness with our biggest strength, front-court depth vs. front-court depth.
 
Also, I think San Antonio biggest strength has been their overall depth, they have so many interchangeable wing players and situational big men. That advantage typically doesn't help that much in the playoffs as most teams shrink to an 8 man rotation. I guess the same thing could be said for us, but I feel like we have more players who can play extended minutes vs. Spurs who only have 2 (Ginobili and Parker). Can Ginobili even play 30+ mpg in the playoffs? Duncan? Parker is there only guy I see who can really be counted on to play extended minutes without too much potential fatigue and drop off.

https://espn.go.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/sa/cat/avgMinutes/san-antonio-spurs

Look at the MPG. I guess you could they should all be fairly well rested, but what will their rotations be in the playoffs?
 
But, if we are throwing darts at the FO, here's mine:
I would have traded Al quickly and for a little less than market value in order to make it (potentially) harder for us to crash the playoff party. That way we are more likely to get two picks and the youth is a bit more experienced (in terms of game time).
But, I trust KOC for now because of the wrinkle I mentioned above. And, playoff experience is playoff experience. These are valuable games.
 
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