Omnibus Gordon Hayward Thread (To clean up the Board some)

[seattlejazzfan]

I got your point and agreed. I was just pointing out the Jazz even struggled to give AK the max. In hindsight,obviously we overpaid for AK, but if he had maintained his level of play with minimal injury, I wouldn't have complained too much. He was a stats machine, and did a lot of intangibles too. Loved vintage AK.

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[Stifle Tower]

I got your point and agreed. I was just pointing out the Jazz even struggled to give AK the max. In hindsight,obviously we overpaid for AK, but if he had maintained his level of play with minimal injury, I wouldn't have complained too much. He was a stats machine, and did a lot of intangibles too. Loved vintage AK.

I remember Larry H. saying at the time that AK wasn't a max player, but he would be by the end of his contract. AK was such a unique talent at that point that someone would have given him a huge contract. And then, allegedly, Larry H. vetoed a trade for Marion that would have gotten AK off the books sooner.

 

[fishonjazz]

I got your point and agreed. I was just pointing out the Jazz even struggled to give AK the max. In hindsight,obviously we overpaid for AK, but if he had maintained his level of play with minimal injury, I wouldn't have complained too much. He was a stats machine, and did a lot of intangibles too. Loved vintage AK.

So let me get this straight......
The jazz struggled to give AK the max, a far superior player on a crappy team that he almost led to the playoff.

The jazz have no problem with matching hayward, a far inferior player who led his team to 4th worst in the league.

Makes perfect sense

 

[Stifle Tower]

So let me get this straight......
The jazz struggled to give AK the max, a far superior player on a crappy team that he almost led to the playoff.

The jazz have no problem with matching hayward, a far inferior player who led his team to 4th worst in the league.

Makes perfect sense

Jazz GAVE AK the max before they had to; they could have told him to go test the market. They either match or lose Hayward. They don't have the choice of contract terms in the latter situation.

 

[fishonjazz]

Jazz GAVE AK the max before they had to; they could have told him to go test the market. They either match or lose Hayward. They don't have the choice of contract terms in the latter situation.

Ya, i said right my post you quoted that the jazz gave ak max and are gonna match hayward

 

[JAZZGASM]

So let me get this straight......
The jazz struggled to give AK the max, a far superior player on a crappy team that he almost led to the playoff.

The jazz have no problem with matching hayward, a far inferior player who led his team to 4th worst in the league.

Makes perfect sense

The market really dictated value for both. Gasols contract make AKs high. Paul George did the same thing with GH and now the market demand (or lack of supply) is causing GH to get the max. Jazz didnt want to pay ak or hayward. But to keep them you gotta pay what the market will pay.

 

[fishonjazz]

The market really dictated value for both. Gasols contract make AKs high. Paul George did the same thing with GH and now the market demand (or lack of supply) is causing GH to get the max. Jazz didnt want to pay ak or hayward. But to keep them you gotta pay what the market will pay.

No ****
The difference is that ak had earned his contract when the jazz offered it.

Hayward, not so much

 

[JAZZGASM]

No ****
The difference is that ak had earned his contract when the jazz offered it.

Hayward, not so much

AK played on a team that had a team concept. Hayward did not. Hayward was put in a much more difficult situation. If hayward had raul to give him the ball through sloans offense his #s would be better.

 

[akirac73]

No ****
The difference is that ak had earned his contract when the jazz offered it.

Hayward, not so much

mother effing THIS. People seem to forget that AK made the all-star team that season and showed promise as a dominating defensive player. He was far more versatile than Hayward at that point in their career. Hayward had quite possibly his worst season as a pro, and he's being offered the max. Crazy.

 

[fishonjazz]

AK played on a team that had a team concept. Hayward did not. Hayward was put in a much more difficult situation. If hayward had raul to give him the ball through sloans offense his #s would be better.

True

 

[fishonjazz]

mother effing THIS. People seem to forget that AK made the all-star team that season and showed promise as a dominating defensive player. He was far more versatile than Hayward at that point in their career. Hayward had quite possibly his worst season as a pro, and he's being offered the max. Crazy.

Also true





Sorry kicky. Can a mod merge my last two posts

 

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