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On telling someone who the "real racist" is

Well to repent requires one to turn away from one's sinful ways... so if one is unwilling to change then how can one repent?

I'm just pondering this out loud, its nothing to do with anyone in particular.


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So this bit about racism. . . . .

Being a good student of Ambrose Bierce, I early on understood the symmetry in human prejudices.

Nobody is ever going to convince me that whites are any different from other folks. Everybody loves their own kind, their own culture, their familiar ways. Anybody who is different will be treated differently. It's human nature.

You can make up your own "Commandments" about what others should or should not do, but frankly I'd rather deal with people straight up the way they are without facades or pretenses. In the Philippines there were some nationalistic or racially-qualified "Churches". The Catholic Church in Rome was not good enough for some, so they made their own Filipino church. There were several groups who devoutly believed the Philippines was the Lord's favorite sacred place, and Filipinos were God's chosen race.

The same kind of thinking exists in every nation, and every tribe. They will all make slaves of people who are different, if they can.

I was assaulted a number of times by people who hated Americans. . . . .

I saw them hate the people across the river just as much.

You have to be an armchair philosopher to get all wrapped up about "racism" in this world. If you are willing to just go out on the street and live a real life, you might end up understanding all kinds of people, and might learn to just accept others as they are, so far as they are willing to deal with you. . . . . Frankly, it's their own business if they want to hate me, or anyone else. . . . .
 
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I would even go as far as saying that there is even racism within the same race, if you know what I mean. In Thailand people who are "Chinese looking" have paler skin and are often more affluent than the native "Thais" who often have darker skin. These "Chinese looking" Thais would often look down on darker skinned people and some would even avoid associating themselves with the darker skinned people. May be it's also to do with money... the rich associating themselves with the rich.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Comes down to how willing are you to change, imo. If you go for the sake of going, not wanting to change, then I ask you again, why go?

Not judging, just asking the question.
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LogGrad98 said:
I think the simple act of going would imply some desire to change, even if it is just to change a minor behavior to mollify the mrs. that you are willing to go to church.
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E.J. Wells said:
The thing is, I go to church because I like it. I have no desire to change who I am, thank you very much.
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I think I look at church the same way hotnickkk does. I look at it as a place where those that are religious/ spiritual can recharge their minds, learn new ways of looking at things via the reading of scripture and maybe even changing their outlook on life. As corny as this sounds, the last few years I've been more and more introspective and get excited when I see something I can draw from, whatever it may be and am able to use it in my everyday life.

When I hear Balloun say, that he has no desire to change who he is, well, that just tells me there's a lot of self hate there. How can you not want to improve yourself when you have children in your life and are a part of a family?

Log, sometimes I think people go through the motions of being religious and go to church because that's what's expected of them.
 
VINYLONE said:
I think I look at church the same way hotnickkk does. I look at it as a place where those that are religious/ spiritual can recharge their minds, learn new ways of looking at things via the reading of scripture and maybe even changing their outlook on life. As corny as this sounds, the last few years I've been more and more introspective and get excited when I see something I can draw from, whatever it may be and am able to use it in my everyday life.

When I hear Balloun say, that he has no desire to change who he is, well, that just tells me there's a lot of self hate there. How can you not want to improve yourself when you have children in your life and are a part of a family?

Log, sometimes I think people go through the motions of being religious and go to church because that's what's expected of them.
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Great post.


Thank you for your contribution to this discussion.
 
VINYLONE said:
Log, sometimes I think people go through the motions of being religious and go to church because that's what's expected of them.
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Oh undoubtedly. But it is still a choice that requires foregoing other choices (opportunity costs). If someone found zero value in it, I doubt they would go. Maintaining the facade can be the thing of value they get out of it, of course. But to me it still implies a certain level of willingness to do something you may not want to do over something you might want to do more, which implies at least a minimal level of willingness to change behavior.

It just seems rude to imply that a certain person's behavior implies they should not be going to church, or that church is wasted on that individual, or that it is firm condemnation of their hypocrisy, when in reality it may represent a fundamental change in that person of which you are wholly unaware. The perceived "un-church-like" behavior may be a huge step forward for the individual from previous patterns of behavior.
 
Well, I guess it's a good thing I have no pride.

But then again I also have no shame.

I think I'm in limbo.
 
I hate when people say white people can't dance. It's basically the same as getting frisked and humiliated by police officers because of your skin color. Basically.
 
VINYLONE said:
When I hear Balloun say, that he has no desire to change who he is, well, that just tells me there's a lot of self hate there. How can you not want to improve yourself when you have children in your life and are a part of a family?
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Seriously, Dick? That is what you got out of my post? Since when has being happy and satisfied with your life equal "self hate"? Fwiw, I never said I didn't want to improve myself, only that I am happy and in no need of change. If you know me at all, then you know that I am all for improvements of mind, body, and soul.





Hack.
 
E.J. Wells said:
Seriously, Dick? That is what you got out of my post? Since when has being happy and satisfied with your life equal "self hate"? Fwiw, I never said I didn't want to improve myself, only that I am happy and in no need of change. If you know me at all, then you know that I am all for improvements of mind, body, and soul.


Hack.
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I think he was trying to be nice and not say what he and everyone reading this thread feels about you and your approach to life/belief.


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