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Oni traded to Thunder

Pinhead said:
I’m confused - couldn’t we waive him and accomplish the same thing?
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My hope is that this is a fake 2nd rounder and we simply paid OKC less cash than the tax hit would have been.

Then again, this Jazz FO traded an unprotected 2nd rounder to get rid of Rayjon Tucker to save about $80k. So crazier things have happened.
 
KqWIN said:
We'll need to wait for details on the pick. It could be a fake one. My initial thought was that we paid OKC more cash than what our tax bill would have been, which could still be true if it's fake.

Going rate for 2nd round picks cost about $3M in cash IIRC correctly. We saved about $2.5M in taxes by not waiving him. I surely hope this isn't a Rayjon Tucker situation where our cap guys don't understand the cap.
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Whoooaaaa... what are you insinuating... these guis is proffesionalists... they don't make mistake.

We could have waived Oni to start the season... then you have like 10 days to fill the 14th spot... can cycle through 10 day guys and lower the tax hit. But what's another second rounder amongst friends.

I can't wait to hear the Jazz media group talk about how smart this is and just an amazing job finding this deal and getting it done! A++++++

This could set us up for a two for 1 deal.... or its just some straight cash considerations. We have so many second round picks the next 5 years 2028 don't matter.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Whoooaaaa... what are you insinuating... these guis is proffesionalists... they don't make mistake.

We could have waived Oni to start the season... then you have like 10 days to fill the 14th spot... can cycle through 10 day guys and lower the tax hit. But what's another second rounder amongst friends.

I can't wait to hear the Jazz media group talk about how smart this is and just an amazing job finding this deal and getting it done! A++++++

This could set us up for a two for 1 deal.... or its just some straight cash considerations. We have so many second round picks the next 5 years 2028 don't matter.
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But don't you understand how valuable an open roster spot is when you already have an open spot and you have to fill that spot eventually anyways? That flexibility is so important!

I'll tell you what, either Ryan Smith is the cheapest mofo in the league or the Jazz cap guy is hilariously awful.
 
The other option is waive Oni at the beginning of the year... take a little time to figure out who you want and sign another minimum vet that you actually want.... since you need to fill the roster spot anyway.

Remember a couple days ago when Tony Jones said "hey... we have a $9M trade exception we can use!" We did this deal to offload like $1M in salary cap hit.

If things we going to be this tight money wise we should have passed on Udoka's option and traded him instead.... saves an extra $1M or so over this deal.
 
KqWIN said:
My hope is that this is a fake 2nd rounder and we simply paid OKC less cash than the tax hit would have been.

Then again, this Jazz FO traded an unprotected 2nd rounder to get rid of Rayjon Tucker to save about $80k. So crazier things have happened.
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Or... they thought they could get under the tax and ****ed up the maths instead of some silly *** minimal savings.... but that could never happen right?!?!?!?!
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Or... they thought they could get under the tax and ****ed up the maths instead of some silly *** minimal savings.... but that could never happen right?!?!?!?!
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Like I said, either Ryan Smith is the cheapest mofo in the league or the cap guys for the Jazz are hilariously bad. There's no justifying that move, and depending on the protections of this pick they might have just made another gaffe.

I think it's a bad omen that "cash considerations" hasn't been mentioned at all. That's the only way this is a sound move.
 
How many second round picks have we spent getting rid of guys we never should have picked up options on.... like 4.... 5 if you count the one we use on Udoka next year.

The churro is displeased with this.

Please also keep in mind that we likely moved our first to slide back and get two second round picks this offseason. Rather than having a $2M rookie on a potentially valuable 4 year deal.... we have a guy on a 1M cap hold for a 2 year deal. Like imagine if we had Desmond Bane but now he'd be a free agent at the end of the year.

We should find some pennies somewhere else.
 
KqWIN said:
Like I said, either Ryan Smith is the cheapest mofo in the league or the cap guys for the Jazz are hilariously bad. There's no justifying that move, and depending on the protections of this pick they might have just made another gaffe.

I think it's a bad omen that "cash considerations" hasn't been mentioned at all. That's the only way this is a sound move.
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The fact that it is in 2028 leads me to believe it is a real second rounder. Presti also is quite good at extracting a little extra value... even though he has all teh pikkks.
 
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