Open Enrollment - Let's All Complain

[Jazzta]

Speaking of military. Much of these countries can afford government paid healthcare because they spend little to nothing on defense, knowing the US military will come to the rescue if anything happens.

That’s the kind of arrogant talk that many don’t appreciate overseas. No that’s not the reason at all, legislators in Spain and other countries aren’t thinking about that when approving M4A. In most cases it came out of grassroot movements and work unions that pushed for it.

 

[Truth]

and US health care is heavily government subsidized. The problem is that the system is complex and inefficient.

 

[One Brow]

That's good coverage.

SM stands for School of Medicine. Very good benefits.

 

[One Brow]

I do like the idea of allowing people opt out, but they should have to put money away every month, like I was doing before.

Cancer diagnoses can run in the hundreds of thousands, even millions to treat. Who pays for it when people opt out?

 

[One Brow]

And I am shocked by their quality. Can't have it all.

You mean, shocked how, despite the Conservative party has been cutting the NHS for the last few years, they still get better service overall than we do?

 

[One Brow]

We do have the best healthcare.

By which metric?

 

[One Brow]

Some of that is also the fact that it is developed here. As someone with CF, I am grateful to be in the US in this "messed up system" As for CF patients, we have medicine and equipment that isn't even an option in Canada because their "free" healthcare wont pay for it.

Which doesn't change that the government could provide the same coverage more inexpensively.

 

[One Brow]

Speaking of military. Much of these countries can afford government paid healthcare because they spend little to nothing on defense, knowing the US military will come to the rescue if anything happens.

We might save some money by not building aircraft carriers that can't launch jets and planes that constantly break down.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

2000 deductible. A little shy of 200 per month premium.

Somewhere near a 1/3 personal, 2/3 employer premium split.

Single person.

 

[Gameface]

Foreign aid isn't much. Good luck getting Americans to spend less on military.

Yeah, foreign aid is peanuts to us and keeps large portions of the world dependant on us and therefore friendly to our policies. It is the best spent money in the entire government IMHO.

 

[Gameface]

We might save some money by not building aircraft carriers that can't launch jets and planes that constantly break down.

The new aircraft carriers are a very needed advance in our technology. I spent 4 years of my life on the USS Nimitz, the first of the the current/previous generation of aircraft carriers. The Ford class carriers are going to cost less to use and be significantly more effective.

If you want to argue that we should never build another aircraft carrier I'd take that opinion more seriously. But if we are going to build new aircraft carriers they need to be modernized.

The U.S. is the only nation that has perfected steam catapult launch systems, but those systems are more than 50 years old and they beat the **** out of aircraft. The new EMALS system is going to be hard to perfect, but we need to move to that system. It is better in pretty much every way. The new ammunition elevators are having issues. Those issues will be solved.

The Ford class aircraft carriers are what we should build if we're going to build new aircraft carriers.

Aircraft carriers, especially the U.S. ones, are the closest thing to a "death star" that humans currently build. They matter. We don't need to be building outdated aircraft carriers because it's hard to perfect next generation technology for new ones. We need to build the new stuff and learn how to make it work.

 

[One Brow]

The new aircraft carriers are a very needed advance in our technology. I spent 4 years of my life on the USS Nimitz, the first of the the current/previous generation of aircraft carriers. The Ford class carriers are going to cost less to use and be significantly more effective.

If you want to argue that we should never build another aircraft carrier I'd take that opinion more seriously. But if we are going to build new aircraft carriers they need to be modernized.

I agree. However, if we are going to build them, we need to get them working correctly before they are deployed.