Open season on Law enforcement?

[fishonjazz]

And for those who claim that mental illness needs to be the focus I say this: we don't own the monopoly on crazy people. All countries have them. But countries with sensible gun laws typically see far lower gun violence than those who let anyone and everyone own a small armory

Well put

 

[Stoked]

Well put

Mental illness needs to be a focus. Not the focus. Ignoring that is ignoring part of the problem. It all plays a part.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Mental illness needs to be a focus. Not the focus. Ignoring that is ignoring part of the problem. It all plays a part.

isnt mental illness overused. some people are just evil!

 

[Stoked]

isnt mental illness overused. some people are just evil!

Not all shootings are done by "evil" people. True evilness is exceptionally rare.

 

[fishonjazz]

Mental illness needs to be a focus. Not the focus. Ignoring that is ignoring part of the problem. It all plays a part.

I think everyone, thriller included, agrees that we should try to help the mentally ill.

His point is that every country has mentally ill people. That is not what makes our high rates of death by gun or other countries would have similar rates.
What makes our rates so high is the amount of guns and the availability of them

 

[DutchJazzer]

Not all shootings are done by "evil" people. True evilness is exceptionally rare.

i know, but now it seems like people/society is to quick to use the mental illness card. me myself have been guilty of it.
but people are evil, jealous, greedy and sometimes these things lead to violence/death.

and i have a feeling holmes is not mentally ill he is just evil.

or is now people who are evil automatically labeled mentally ill. people do bad things for greed, jealousy, envy, lust and all other reasons.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I think everyone, thriller included, agrees that we should try to help the mentally ill.

His point is that every country has mentally ill people. That is not what makes our high rates of death by gun or other countries would have similar rates.
What makes our rates so high is the amount of guns and the availability of them

Yep.

I think we should look at what Australia did. They once were a world leader in gun violence. Sensible common sense reforms were made and they've slashed their gun violence rate.

Unfortunately, we have the repulsive NRA, the 4th branch of our government, that prevents anything from getting accomplished.

 

[moevillini]

...Unfortunately, we have the repulsive NRA, the 4th branch of our government, that prevents anything from getting accomplished.

It's the Second Amendment, really. The NRA wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on without the second amendment.

 

[Stoked]

It's the Second Amendment, really. The NRA wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on without the second amendment.

Moe. He has political points to score. You're not helping.

 

[Stoked]

I think everyone, thriller included, agrees that we should try to help the mentally ill.

His point is that every country has mentally ill people. That is not what makes our high rates of death by gun or other countries would have similar rates.
What makes our rates so high is the amount of guns and the availability of them

mental health and gun availability are both only 1 piece to the puzzle.

But what the hell. Storm that castle guys!! Let me know how it turns out.

 

[fishonjazz]

mental health and gun availability are both only 1 piece to the puzzle.

But what the hell. Storm that castle guys!! Let me know how it turns out.

Seems a little extreme

 

[Stoked]

Seems a little extreme

And I think blaming any one part of this problem for the entire problem is extreme.