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Other Kanter trade ideas....just because we can

QuinSnydersHair said:
This. We don't want to be average. We want to take 2-4 of our average "assets" like Burks, Kanter, draft picks, as well as, and I'll duck, Exum, ahem, for an obvious and huge upgrade. A Rondo-type player.
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The legend of Rondo:rolleyes:......aim much higher than that for that package in any combination.
 
Vermin said:
I'm liking what Favors is doing. No reason he can't be a 20 and 10 guy himself without all the other stuff cousins brings,so no.
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That is so ****ing tired. Two narratives;

1) Favors is almost there.. maybe next year.
2) Cousins baggage scares me!

Maybe if Favors could develop a little baggage of his own he would be worth all the over-praise he gets from Jazzers.

Cousins is #4 in the league in PTs and #3 in the league in RBDs. Wonder where that places him in the best bigs in the league?
How does that compare to Favors not in top 40 in scoring and #16 in boards?

Oh, it must be the leadership Favors exudes. lmao

And I really like Favors, but c'mon, bro.. you, of all people, should be able to see beyond.
 
Vermin said:
I'm liking what Favors is doing. No reason he can't be a 20 and 10 guy himself without all the other stuff cousins brings,so no.
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This is also why I said no.

I like favors too much. He has a friendly contract, and he likes it here.

Like pkm said, cousins would look good next to gobert though..... I still wouldn't do the trade though. Favors looks good next to gobert too
 
PKM said:
That is so ****ing tired. Two narratives;

1) Favors is almost there.. maybe next year.
2) Cousins baggage scares me!

Maybe if Favors could develop a little baggage of his own he would be worth all the over-praise he gets from Jazzers.

Cousins is #4 in the league in PTs and #3 in the league in RBDs. Wonder where that places him in the best bigs in the league?
How does that compare to Favors not in top 40 in scoring and #16 in boards?

Oh, it must be the leadership Favors exudes. lmao

And I really like Favors, but c'mon, bro.. you, of all people, should be able to see beyond.
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Solid post
 
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PKM said:
That is so ****ing tired. Two narratives;

1) Favors is almost there.. maybe next year.
2) Cousins baggage scares me!

Maybe if Favors could develop a little baggage of his own he would be worth all the over-praise he gets from Jazzers.

Cousins is #4 in the league in PTs and #3 in the league in RBDs. Wonder where that places him in the best bigs in the league?
How does that compare to Favors not in top 40 in scoring and #16 in boards?

Oh, it must be the leadership Favors exudes. lmao

And I really like Favors, but c'mon, bro.. you, of all people, should be able to see beyond.
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I don't see Cousins as a winner so ill take less baggage. Why move parts around just for the sake of doing so? Cousins is a better player no doubt, but no way do I want him and his loserish attitude sinking my team.
 
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Oh....and definelty not fair to Favors to discount the progress he has made each and every year...**** just in past 10 games.
 
PKM said:
Formula

1 offensive frontcourt player
1 defensive frontcourt player
1 defensive backcourt player
1 offensive backcourt player
1 3&D wing player

Bench full of lunch pail, braided up, badasses.
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I was thinking earlier how based on our current roster, we could fill out and try to emulate and become like the recent Pistons or Celts teams.

First, those teams had two solid interior defenders ala Wallace/Wallace and Garnett/Perkins. IMO, we have that in Favors/Gobert. Gobert is already better than his competitors (Ben and Kendrick) on offense. A few years with some added experience, wisdom, weight gain and strength and he can be a better defender than Kendrick and relatively close to Ben. Favors will never be as good as Garnett was on defense but he can be better than Rasheed. Regardless, coupled together, Rudy and Gobert could become a suffocating defensive tandem. The key to that tandem then imo is Favors development on offense. Give him three years with Quin and I think he could have a solid 17 footer along with a post, counter move or two. He'll never be as god as Rasheed or Kevin on offense but he could become a threat, so to speak

So now we come to the wings. Outside of Rondo, were Pierce and Allen tremendously talented defenders? Outside of probably Prince, were Billups or Hamilton? My answer would be no. I think in time, Hayward could be almost an equal to Pierce. He lacks a little of Pierce's size but I think he could become a hard-working, crafty defender like Pierce. Maybe, maybe not. If we shifted him to the 2, I definitely think he can be as effective as Rip and Allen were on defense and sort of similar to the former on offense. He's not as quick as those guys? Perhaps. Regardless, I think Hayward has such a strong ball iq and work ethic (and now coaching to support those) that he would be a very effective defender.

So, not that I'm spouting out some amazingly insightful stuff here, but I think as others have said, we need a 3 and D player. The Celts had that in Posey. A Tony Allen, Kawhi Leonard type would do wonders here. Hayward wouldn't have to defend the opponent's best wing. Could Hood become this guy? I'm not sure. I have faith in his shooting but I admittedly don't know enough about his defense and worry about his injuries. So yeah, a Johnson or Winslow pick may be ideal. How's this kid from UVA who is shooting like 50% from three? UVA may be the best defensive team in the country so if he plays awesome d, I wonder if he too may be a great 3 and d player. Regardless, this needs to be the role we go after in this coming draft imo. If we go after one of those foreigners, I'm down with that too. They look legit and I have faith in Dennis.

I'm not saying this would be the opening night lineup but this one here would be pretty sick, especially if our pt's develop which i think they would as Burke has to realize his job is on the line and Exum would know he needs to improve and improve drastically.

Burke-Exum
Hayward-Burks
Johnson-Hood
Favors-Booker
Gobert-Kanter

How freakin' deep could we be?
 
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