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Outta Compton....Good for race issues or bad?

fishonjazz said:
I disagree about easy being a horrible rapper.

Lol at your second statement.


Oh ya and pac > wallace
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Eazy E was horrendous. God awful. N.W.A. was meh, they just did it first, and that counts for something. Biggie had a better flow for sure. Was a better writer too imo. I'm not Tupac hater either, I just think Biggie was much better. RIP.
 
Biggie might have been the better lyricist, but Pac was the more important rapper IMO. There's better singers than Bob Dylan, better guitar players, but you can't knock his importance. Same deal here.
 
candrew said:
This thread makes me laugh. NWA did maybe 2 or 3 songs that could be possibly interpreted as socially conscious. 95% of their music was about bitches, bling and being a gangster. That's the stuff that attracted the suburban white boys - the political overtones of "F....The Police" were incidental. Go on to You-Tube and listen to the first couple of solo records from Ice-Cube and Eazy E - it's some of the most misogynistic music ever created.

Real socially conscious rappers like KRS-One (who started producing music in the mid-80s when Dr. Dre was still going around wearing women's make-up on his face) never got to first base on the charts because, let's face it, that stuff is boring in large doses.
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You are dumb.
 
dalamon said:
Biggie might have been the better lyricist, but Pac was the more important rapper IMO. There's better singers than Bob Dylan, better guitar players, but you can't knock his importance. Same deal here.
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I'm not going to disagree with that. Pac is more important, he was able to put out more music. BUT, he's not as good a rapper.
 
LogGrad98 said:
There has been a movement all along. It started in the 1860's. It gained steam in the 1960's and has improved a lot in the last 50 years comparatively, so of course we would talk about the movement. The question is does this kind of thing help it or hurt it? If they had approached this differently do you think we would be further ahead of where we are or further behind? Or was this exactly the shot in the arm it needed at the time?

I also think you are right, as bolded above especially.
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The fight to end slavery in Brit turf began long before 1860. "No sugar in my tea" was a political statement against slavery in the Brit sugar plantations of the Caribbean, and against Brit slave trade worldwide. We had the "Underground Railroad" in the very early 1800s so slaves could escape to Canada where no US long arm of the law could reach them.

Yesterday, in Sacramento, at a pit stop off the Interstate, in a Safeway parking lot, we parked a few cars away from a police car with it's lights on. I sat there and watched. The cops were in the trunk of another car about three spaces away, going through stuff. A black man was in cuffs giving the cops some lip. I could hear it all clearly. Another black man came up, and showed registration on the car the cops were ransacking, and the cops took the cuffs off, and just left.

I'd say we still have some way to go.

I believe the race war being pumped by our Mainstream Media and some bought-and-paid-for race baiters like Jesse Jackson and some activist organizations is financed by fascist elements embracing world governance for the express purpose of igniting race war in the US, but the problems or offenses are real enough. Maybe some of the racists are also financed by the fascist interests, though. This would be the standard method advocated by Machiavelli and later communist agitators the world over, working the people up to some confrontation in the context of active manipulations on both sides.

This method was what brought us to the Civil War, rather than a peaceable transition like what Joseph Smith advocated in his run for the US Presidency: Federal Government by act of Congress funding the purchase of all slaves, and setting them free, and creating some turf they could clearly govern themselves. Not the Indian Reservation system, but like a State they could just call their own, and live like any other Americans. The industrial revolution was beginning to mechanize agriculture, and machines are cheaper than slaves, really. Just ask the modern protagonists of Robotics.
 
dopnt forget history gets written biy the "victors"
easy-e is dead, so this fictitious history is an account written by everyone except eazy e
 
I loved NWA. I have every album by every former member of that group up until about 1995. At that point I kind of out grew rap music. But still love to listen to some of those albums.
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I will absolutely watch this movie. When it's on redbox.
 
babe said:
I believe the race war being pumped by our Mainstream Media and some bought-and-paid-for race baiters like Jesse Jackson and some activist organizations is financed by fascist elements embracing world governance for the express purpose of igniting race war in the US, but the problems or offenses are real enough. Maybe some of the racists are also financed by the fascist interests, though. This would be the standard method advocated by Machiavelli and later communist agitators the world over, working the people up to some confrontation in the context of active manipulations on both sides.
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Seems that Babe's tin foil hat is getting a bit tight and cutting off the circulation to his brain.

Love ya Babe, but c'mon, really?
 
Between this thread and the Taylor Swift thread, I never realized the amount of expertise we have on the board when it comes to music. Y'all are gettin' rich I hope. Simon Cowells everywhere.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
Seems that Babe's tin foil hat is getting a bit tight and cutting off the circulation to his brain.

Love ya Babe, but c'mon, really?
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really?

i agree. the media, obama and a small vocal minority on social media are fueling this race war and also the usual suspects the cockroach al sharpton and his buddies
 
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