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He actually seemed irritated we were asking him about the elevators. I should have told him to buckle up.
“Boy I tell ya, T, I had some real **** waffles asking for elevator directions in the house tonight.”
 
I used to say Gay should take over bogeys starting spot but I'm not sure now. Bogey has been very consistent lately and playing some defense. joe otoh is clearly playing old and slow. you can't fix this unless maybeb he finds the fountain of youth.
 
because to win a chip, there's more than just offense. Like we are leading the entire NBA in ortg by a fine margin, and somehow ranked behind both GSW and Suns overall. Why is that?
If we are trading Bogy for Butler I agree, the problem is we aren’t getting anything back defensively for bogey that will be more valuable then what bogey gets us on offense, while in the meantime we get much worse offensively and begin the slow road to mediocrity and losing our offensive identity. But I guess it’s just easier to think the grass is greener on the other side. To make the changes you are proposing the proper way of doing it is through the draft or trading Mitchell that’s it. Trading Bogey does way more harm then good
 
If we are trading Bogy for Butler I agree, the problem is we aren’t getting anything back defensively for bogey that will be more valuable then what bogey gets us on offense, while in the meantime we get much worse offensively and begin the slow road to mediocrity and losing our offensive identity. But I guess it’s just easier to think the grass is greener on the other side. To make the changes you are proposing the proper way of doing it is through the draft or trading Mitchell that’s it. Trading Bogey does way more harm then good
Never say never. What if someone like Harrison Barnes or jerami Grant is available? I would at least entertain the idea. Plus we are on the brink of mediocrity even if we keep everyone. You can't defeat age. But I agree Jingles and JC would be the ones we'd look to trade first.
 
Never say never. What if someone like Harrison Barnes or jerami Grant is available? I would at least entertain the idea. Plus we are on the brink of mediocrity even if we keep everyone. You can't defeat age. But I agree Jingles and JC would be the ones we'd look to trade first.
So, you’re hoping teams just decide, what the hell, let’s lay down for the jazz
 
Never say never. What if someone like Harrison Barnes or jerami Grant is available? I would at least entertain the idea. Plus we are on the brink of mediocrity even if we keep everyone. You can't defeat age. But I agree Jingles and JC would be the ones we'd look to trade first.
I think as long as we have Rudy and he continues to perform at this level (so far he’s only gotten better each year) we’ll be elite. Nobody talks about his athleticism but for a guy his size he’s a freak athlete with quick reflexes and a quick jump. And the other guys aren’t as bad as they’re made out to be. If Bogey was black he’d automatically be generally regarded as 20% more athletic.

And if you’re thinking you can swap JC out for superior athleticism, “fawget about it”! He’s a freak with a high motor and a good handle, even if he’s still figuring it all out sometimes.
 
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I used to say Gay should take over bogeys starting spot but I'm not sure now. Bogey has been very consistent lately and playing some defense. joe otoh is clearly playing old and slow. you can't fix this unless maybe he finds the fountain of youth.

You're not sure? Gay looks every bit as old and slow as Joe does and nobody in their right mind would ever consider starting him over Bogey.
 
You're not sure? Gay looks every bit as old and slow as Joe does and nobody in their right mind would ever consider starting him over Bogey.
Agreed but there seemed to be a lot of forum sentiment in that direction after Gay’s jackrabbit start for us out of the gate. I gotta respect Agent’s admission in that regard.
 
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