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fishonjazz said:
I think the whole psi thing is a dumb rule anyway.

Nfl should just let each team deflate or inflate the ball however they want too.
If you let both teams be in control of ball inflation then it's fair and even and no team has an advantage.

If a team wants thier ball at 3 psi why not let them? Good luck throwing a tight spiral or a deep ball.
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Or they could just use the same ball/balls.
 
heyhey said:
Or they could just use the same ball/balls.
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That too, which is what I suggested in my first post in this thread.

Having separate balls for each team is almost life the nfl was just asking teams to cheat.
 
fishonjazz said:
I think the whole psi thing is a dumb rule anyway.

Nfl should just let each team deflate or inflate the ball however they want too.
If you let both teams be in control of ball inflation then it's fair and even and no team has an advantage.

If a team wants thier ball at 3 psi why not let them? Good luck throwing a tight spiral or a deep ball.
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I totally agree.
 
fishonjazz said:
I think the whole psi thing is a dumb rule anyway.

Nfl should just let each team deflate or inflate the ball however they want too.
If you let both teams be in control of ball inflation then it's fair and even and no team has an advantage.

If a team wants thier ball at 3 psi why not let them? Good luck throwing a tight spiral or a deep ball.
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+1
 
fishonjazz said:
I think the whole psi thing is a dumb rule anyway.

Nfl should just let each team deflate or inflate the ball however they want too.
If you let both teams be in control of ball inflation then it's fair and even and no team has an advantage.

If a team wants thier ball at 3 psi why not let them? Good luck throwing a tight spiral or a deep ball.
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I was gonna post this too.


It seems the rule is I'm place to force more exciting action into the games
The NFL probably wants more fumbles. Why else would you care?
 
Fish nailed it on this one.

Also, is it really that much of an advantage to have the ball at a different PSI? Trying to remember back to my high school playing days, although I didn't handle the ball that much unless the QB dropped it off to me at tight end on a broken play or I picked one up on special teams, but I didn't ever even think about whether or not the ball was inflated properly.
 
fishonjazz said:
I think the whole psi thing is a dumb rule anyway.

Nfl should just let each team deflate or inflate the ball however they want too.
If you let both teams be in control of ball inflation then it's fair and even and no team has an advantage.

If a team wants thier ball at 3 psi why not let them? Good luck throwing a tight spiral or a deep ball.
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Never have fumbles again. On running plays that ball is deflated enough to squish it tight enough there is no way its coming out. Plus it would add more crazy one handed catches. Maybe the ball is flat enough the can do some cool trick plays where they fold it up since it is all the way flat and try and hide the ball. We would get some new records in FGs. Less accurate but you over inflate the balls and you can put some distance on them when kicking. I think cold weather/ non-dome teams would really like this rule change.
 
Personally dont care about the inflation thing. It does represent that the organization does anything to win and does not care about the rules. If caught for this I think it means they have cheated in a bunch of ways and have not been caught for most of it. Even if not caught I think they did this and will just get away with it since there is no definitive proof besides that it happened, they dont know how.
 
Broncster said:
Personally dont care about the inflation thing. It does represent that the organization does anything to win and does not care about the rules. If caught for this I think it means they have cheated in a bunch of ways and have not been caught for most of it. Even if not caught I think they did this and will just get away with it since there is no definitive proof besides that it happened, they dont know how.
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The Steelers running back didn't fumble all year. Does that mean Big Ben was doctoring the balls?
 
homeytennis said:
The Steelers running back didn't fumble all year. Does that mean Big Ben was doctoring the balls?
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Not fumbling does not mean the balls were tampered with but it is a possibility. Correlation is not causation right?

Also I dont think any team or player is dumb enough to tamper with the balls themselves. It is a ball boy or equiment manager or someone else "acting independently" who changes the psi or tampers with the ball in anyway. USC got in trouble for the same thing as the Pats when they played Oregon a couple years ago and they got a small fine and the ball boy took the heat and was let go.
 
I heard the Vikings got in trouble this season for messing with the footballs in some way. (I don't know what exactly they did)
 
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