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The Clash - Should I stay or Should I Go Now?


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My feeling is that if Paul George doesn't commit to the Celtics long term, Hayward doesn't have a compelling enough reason to sign with the Celtics. Then I wonder why on earth Paul George would forfeit his opportunity to become a free agent, test the market and go to LA if that's what he wants. I think Paul George agreeing to a long-term extension is unlikely.

The media pundits, however, seem to think that Hayward should want to leave the Jazz for the Celtics even if Paul George doesn't commit longer term. I'm not sure what their reasoning is, but it seems as though they're lobbying for it.
 
So your idea is to let the team implode because you don't like the contract numbers? And this gets us closer to a title? Alright.

Please tell me your master plan then.
If Hayward only re-signs because of an overpaid, injury prone, aging PG, then I let Hill go.

I want Hayward. I really do. But Hayward will not ever be the best player on a contender. Won't happen. Some thing else big has to happen. Could it be Mitchell? Maybe. But Hill making $20+ is like taking Joe and Favors off the 2018/19 roster. And we wouldn't be able to replace them.

My solution - trade Favors, Diaw and a pick for Millsap (sign and trade on the Atlanta end). After that, we try to fit Hayward and Ingles or Hill or Teodisic. Maybe 2 of them depending on cost.

Millsap makes us a contender much, much more than Hill. And maybe we afford both. But if the off-season is just Hayward, Ingles and overpay Hill, just dumb.

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The Jazz's potential to emerge as a legit contender depends mostly on Rudy Gobert. If he can keep developing, that gives the Jazz a potential top-10 player in the league. Hayward can then be the second option and the player that ocmplements Gobert. If Mitchell hits, that gives the Jazz a third option.
 
My guess is that if Hayward is going to leave, he will sign with the Celtics today. If he goes to the Jazz meeting tomorrow, that means he is staying. Why? Because the meeting with the Jazz will only be a formality. I'm sure they already have had their meeting about what the Jazz offer over the other teams and the reasons he should stay. And you know, Ingles already has spoken to him, I'm sure, and so has Hill.
 
My guess is that if Hayward is going to leave, he will sign with the Celtics today. If he goes to the Jazz meeting tomorrow, that means he is staying. Why? Because the meeting with the Jazz will only be a formality. I'm sure they already have had their meeting about what the Jazz offer over the other teams and the reasons he should stay. And you know, Ingles already has spoken to him, I'm sure, and so has Hill.

Hayward would never disrespect Dennis and Quin and Jazz organization by signing with Boston before meeting with the Jazz. Would be a complete no class move, and Hayward has class and an agent that would advise against this dick move. He could decide today but he won't announce until Tuesday.
 
Hayward would never disrespect Dennis and Quin and Jazz organization by signing with Boston before meeting with the Jazz. Would be a complete no class move, and Hayward has class and an agent that would advise against this dick move. He could decide today but he won't announce until Tuesday.

Agreed. My money is on Celtics
 
Yea, that is strange. You clicked the box but it's not showing. Not something I can fix.

The public polls have a link on the poll numbers themselves (ie the '33' and '12' at the point of this writing). Click on either of them an everyone's user name will appear underneath what they voted for. At least it's working for me.
 
Hayward would never disrespect Dennis and Quin and Jazz organization by signing with Boston before meeting with the Jazz. Would be a complete no class move, and Hayward has class and an agent that would advise against this dick move. He could decide today but he won't announce until Tuesday.

He may still go to the meeting, but as you said, he will decide today.
 
I don't think so. I want him to stay but I doubt that he does. I think he's gone.

What evidence points to him staying?

1. Money
2. Comfort
3. Robyn likes Utah
4. Celtics haven't done ****
5. Miami was non playoff team
6. Ingles re-signed
 
1. Money
2. Comfort
3. Robyn likes Utah
4. Celtics haven't done ****
5. Miami was non playoff team
6. Ingles re-signed

Precisely this. But I would add that Rubio's presence will help, too. Gordon has to know a guy like that will make everyone else better.
 
My heart says he stays and then says he loves Utah so much he is taking the missionary lessons and wants to give 1/3 of his annual salary to his wonderful loyal fan-base. They build a statue, rename a few streets and we all sing kumbaya before every game. My brain says he is shopping his services where he thinks he can get paid and hopefully be part of a super-team to challenge GSW, which shows he realizes we are not a super-team, and indeed at least another all-star if not a full 2 other all-stars in addition to the current roster to get there. The only hope is that he realizes he can't find anything better realistically, and still get paid, than he can in Utah. Hopefully he see that unless he takes a significant pay cut he won't find any team in a better position than Utah right now. And hopefully he doesn't follow the hype. But I am worried that he will follow the hype, so I voted that he is leaving. Hope I am wrong. If he goes we are really in a bad way, as there is really no readily available replacement waiting in the wings. There are some solid role players but then we take a half-step back when the rest of the league are trying to take 3 steps forward.

And so the NBA creeps inexorably toward the 6 super-team + 24 all-star farm-team model that will likely dominate the sport for years to come.
 
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