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Planned Parenthood Selling Baby Organs

so we live in a world where pc says :
we cant call someone "fat" we should say "person of size"
we have to be pc and always be mindful of our words

while these same punk liberals murder and sell baby-parts.

go ahead infract me for this "personal" attack.

yes killing and murdering and selling bodyparts is despicable and inhumane it pisses me off. i have been civil for over 36 pages.
now i am PISSED off. **** all y'all
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
If there were ever any doubts in my mind as to where I stand on this issue, Dutch has helped remove them completely.
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So you are now rabidly pro-abortion because a guy on a forum uses inflammatory words to make his point (which, if you strip away the vitriol is a decent point...the time to choose is in the bedroom beforehand not the doctor's office 2 months later)? Now that is pretty weak will my friend.
 
You know, in human history it has not been uncommon to perform abortions. It has been done for ages in many different cultures. But before modern medicine, it was not done as a procedure in an outpatient clinic, and it was often what you might call a "full-birth abortion". In China it was not uncommon for parents to take an unwanted child (usually female) and drown her in a rice paddy or similar. Many other cultures would simply leave unwanted children to the animals in the wild.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide

I guess you could argue that abortion is at least less barbaric, but what we really see when we read about this is that for millennia we haven't put much value on human life if it was deemed detrimental to the group. The difference IMO is that in historical times they engaged in infanticide when the family was poor and the child would put taking care of the rest of the family at risk, or when generally higher population was detrimental to the society as a whole. I am sure it was also done for reasons of convenience, and we know, horrifyingly, it was done for religious reasons (child sacrifice, etc.), but mostly it was viewed as a survival issue.

But therein lies the rub. It seems to me in our modern society we have made that switch. We now have the technology and the means as a society to support children. Abortion, or infanticide, with the obvious exceptions of risk to the mother, now is a matter of convenience, not survival. I can almost understand when a tribe or whatever felt like they couldn't feed everyone so it was smarter to kill an unwanted newborn than to risk a productive member of the group. But just because the kid might get in the way of mommy's lifestyle seems a poor excuse to me. So after all these advancements we have made as a society we still do not value life any more than neanderthals who simply left unwanted newborns out in the wild to die. Kind of sad really.

It seems we lose sight of other advancements they didn't have historically, like birth control, or sterilization procedures. With these things at our disposal we still do not view human life with any more value than they did during the middle ages. Wow.

Also, to clarify dutch's perspective a bit, there was this piece:

Judaism[edit]

Judaism prohibits infanticide, and has for some time, dating back to at least early Common Era. Roman historians wrote about the ideas and customs of other peoples, which often diverged from their own. Tacitus recorded that the Jews "regard it as a crime to kill any late-born children."[39] Josephus, whose works give an important insight into 1st-century Judaism, wrote that God "forbids women to cause abortion of what is begotten, or to destroy it afterward."[40]
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That is a much stronger stance than even Christianity.

Christianity[edit]

Christianity rejects infanticide. The Teachings of the Apostles or Didache said "You shall not kill that which is born."[43] The Epistle of Barnabas stated an identical command.[44] Apologists Tertullian, Athenagoras, Minucius Felix, Justin Martyr and Lactantius also maintained that exposing a baby to death was a wicked act.[7] In 318 AD, Constantine I considered infanticide a crime, and in 374 AD, Valentinian I mandated the rearing of all children (exposing babies, especially girls, was still common). The Council of Constantinople declared that infanticide was homicide, and in 589 AD, the Third Council of Toledo took measures against the custom of killing their own children.[38]
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So for many people, just because the process is now clinical does not make it any less barbaric.

What is the difference between an embryo and a newborn? About 7 months.
 
LogGrad98 said:
So you are now rabidly pro-abortion because a guy on a forum uses inflammatory words to make his point (which, if you strip away the vitriol is a decent point...the time to choose is in the bedroom beforehand not the doctor's office 2 months later)? Now that is pretty weak will my friend.
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I suppose it's a decent point for a lowlife d-bag who likes to generalize in a way that all women who end up pregnant unintentionally are sluts and whores. And to be honest, there really wasn't any doubt in my mind as to my stance on the subject, but whenever I read such trash from small-minded, holier-than-thou idiots, it only strengthens my opinions on the subject. I'm on my phone and my computer has issues, so I'm limited on the length of my posts at the moment, so I'll just end with the fact that the supreme court agrees with my side on this issue, and regardless of how desperate and nasty your side gets, the law is on my side and for good reason. Chew on that.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
I suppose it's a decent point for a lowlife d-bag who likes to generalize in a way that all women who end up pregnant unintentionally are sluts and whores. And to be honest, there really wasn't any doubt in my mind as to my stance on the subject, but whenever I read such trash from small-minded, holier-than-thou idiots, it only strengthens my opinions on the subject. I'm on my phone and my computer has issues, so I'm limited on the length of my posts at the moment, so I'll just end with the fact that the supreme court agrees with my side on this issue, and regardless of how desperate and nasty your side gets, the law is on my side and for good reason. Chew on that.
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Um, ok. I guess I can chew on that, whatever that means. I just found it interesting that you would allow an extremist on an online forum to modify your view of a subject. I can see debating and trying to understand other points of view having an effect on what one believes, as that is the mature and adult way to explore the world. But I was just a little surprised that anyone would allow an extremist viewpoint to really have much of an impact on their own belief system. I guess I am not surprised anymore.

Oh and here is something to chew on while you are at it.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority
 
no one is chewing on any of these fetuseses or embrios are they? logs and smurfette have me confused.

if so, im against that. ive eaten ostrich before doe. yummy.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
I suppose it's a decent point for a lowlife d-bag who likes to generalize in a way that all women who end up pregnant unintentionally are sluts and whores. And to be honest, there really wasn't any doubt in my mind as to my stance on the subject, but whenever I read such trash from small-minded, holier-than-thou idiots, it only strengthens my opinions on the subject. I'm on my phone and my computer has issues, so I'm limited on the length of my posts at the moment, so I'll just end with the fact that the supreme court agrees with my side on this issue, and regardless of how desperate and nasty your side gets, the law is on my side and for good reason. Chew on that.
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did not say all woman. i am ok with abortions due to health reasons and rape.
but 78 opr 79 forgot the exact number of abortions are due to the baby would inconvience them. and yes then you are a slut. cus if a baby will inconvience yourself dont have sex
 
"The same cultural and moral decay that produces people who defend planned parenthood produces people who shoot other people in theaters"

think about that
 
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