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[gandalfe]

I’ve seen videos of countless black men being killed by cops wile having hands behind their heads and on knees, shot from a safe distance. What did they do to provoke being killed by a cop?

Yeah, those were just 3 names that came to mind pretty instantly.

 

[Beer]

What instructions did they give Breonna Taylor? Tamir Rice? Philando Castile? (They told him not to reach for his gun. He didn't. So much for "comply and it will be OK," right?)

You have proven yourself, right here, to be an ideologue. Let's see if you are an idiot, too.

Tamir and Philando were absolutely disgusting in every single way. Breonna Taylor I'm not so sure is race related, unless you tie in the war on drugs and the ability for cops to execute a no knock raid as racist, Which I wouldn't necessarily disagree with. But in regards to Breonna Taylor didn't they execute the no knock and when they knocked the door down her boyfriend started shooting and she was just caught in the cross fire? So if my facts are correct, which they very well may not be, it's more a matter of terrible policy than it is racist cops. Or am I missing something?

 

[LoPo]

I appreciate you paraphrasing Dr. King there. Give that you agree with him I wanted to bring up that your thoughts on assumptions about people are a description of bigotry, which is what we would call someone holding negative assumptions about a group of people based on an attribute not relevant to the evaluation.

Racism is a systemic issue, in which people experience oppression due to their race. Because of this, while name calling may reflect racism if the target is someone from an oppressed group, name calling is not inherently racist. However, it may be bigoted if it reflects an underlying negative assumption based on Luka being white.

There are the really horrific actions of a racist officer all the way down to snide comments. I think it all has to be addressed if we truly want to see a brighter future. Everybody needs to be treated the same. Period. That's the only way forward. We can dissect the layers of racism all day. And I'm fully aware that the horrific racism far outweighs the surface level comments. I brought those up as part of the Harrell conversation and some are saying I'm stating an officer shooting is the same as being called a name on a basketball court. I'm not.

A parent planting a seed in a small white person's brain that they are better than people of color is unacceptable. I think it's also unacceptable for a parent to plant a seed in a small black person's brain that all white people are in any way, shape or form better than or given an easier life. 100% of the world's issues are how people are raised. A good parent won't allow their kid to wallow in self pity or treat others with disrespect or be a bad human being.

A good parent teaches their kid to tackle the mountain ahead of them and move on to the next one. Along the way, treat everybody the same.

BNTEB - Be Nice to EveryBody

 

[DasJazz]

Tamir and Philando were absolutely disgusting in every single way. Breonna Taylor I'm not so sure is race related, unless you tie in the war on drugs and the ability for cops to execute a no knock raid as racist, Which I wouldn't necessarily disagree with. But in regards to Breonna Taylor didn't they execute the no knock and when they knocked the door down her boyfriend started shooting and she was just caught in the cross fire? So if my facts are correct, which they very well may not be, it's more a matter of terrible policy than it is racist cops. Or am I missing something?

You're missing nothing. Her boyfriend opened fire which led to a fire fight and ultimately resulted in her death. The boyfriend should be charged with her murder and the attempted murder of the policemen who he shot.

 

[fishonjazz]

Tamir and Philando were absolutely disgusting in every single way. Breonna Taylor I'm not so sure is race related, unless you tie in the war on drugs and the ability for cops to execute a no knock raid as racist, Which I wouldn't necessarily disagree with. But in regards to Breonna Taylor didn't they execute the no knock and when they knocked the door down her boyfriend started shooting and she was just caught in the cross fire? So if my facts are correct, which they very well may not be, it's more a matter of terrible policy than it is racist cops. Or am I missing something?

Nah with Breanna Taylor and most of the others the issue is the lack of prosecution of the cops.

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[fishonjazz]

There are the really horrific actions of a racist officer all the way down to snide comments. I think it all has to be addressed if we truly want to see a brighter future. Everybody needs to be treated the same. Period. That's the only way forward. We can dissect the layers of racism all day. And I'm fully aware that the horrific racism far outweighs the surface level comments. I brought those up as part of the Harrell conversation and some are saying I'm stating an officer shooting is the same as being called a name on a basketball court. I'm not.

A parent planting a seed in a small white person's brain that they are better than people of color is unacceptable. I think it's also unacceptable for a parent to plant a seed in a small black person's brain that all white people are in any way, shape or form better than or given an easier life. 100% of the world's issues are how people are raised. A good parent won't allow their kid to wallow in self pity or treat others with disrespect or be a bad human being.

A good parent teaches their kid to tackle the mountain ahead of them and move on to the next one. Along the way, treat everybody the same.

BNTEB - Be Nice to EveryBody

Come on man. A parent can do everything perfectly and their kid can still end up a piece of ****. A parent helps to make their child be a good person but they can't force it or control entirely.

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[LoPo]

Come on man. A parent can do everything perfectly and their kid can still end up a piece of ****. A parent helps to make their child be a good person but they can't force it or control entirely.

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C'mon fish. I'm not saying great parenting will lead to a perfect society with everybody acting perfectly. However, child raising is the start of everything. If done well, the chances that a kid grows up to be a hate mongering POC is a lot less than if the kid isn't raised well at all.

You think LeBron James sitting out a game impacts the world like a child's environment telling him to treat everybody well? Racist cops didn't become racist. They were raised racist or raised in an environment that left the door open for racism.

 

[One Brow]

A lot of police offers ARE minorities. Are people assuming that they have bought into systematic racism and enjoy shooting black people?

I don't know anyone who claims police enjoy shooting black people. The problems include: 1) police are trained to respond violently to what they perceive as threats, 2) black people are more likely to be perceived as threats while engaging in the same behaviors, 3) the interactions are even more poisoned by the differential treatment of black people by police in non-violent situations, and 4) police officers pretend (probably as much to themselves as others) that they are not affected by 2) and 3).

However, minorities are just as molded by systemic racism as everyone else. There is no superpower of being unaffected the culture you are surrounded with.

 

[One Brow]

A recent exploit of theirs was trying to use quick dry cement to lock police inside and burn them alive.

Echos of the cement milkshakes that never existed. Are you really dumb enough to believe this?

Then we have this, Antifa trying to reenact a viking shield wall to stop police.

How dare they try to protect themselves from people trying to beat them. They just protesters, they have no right to be there. What country do they think they are in? [/s]

 

[fishonjazz]

C'mon fish. I'm not saying great parenting will lead to a perfect society with everybody acting perfectly.

Thats what it seemed like you were saying to me.

 

[whatthe]

There are the really horrific actions of a racist officer all the way down to snide comments. I think it all has to be addressed if we truly want to see a brighter future. Everybody needs to be treated the same. Period. That's the only way forward. We can dissect the layers of racism all day. And I'm fully aware that the horrific racism far outweighs the surface level comments. I brought those up as part of the Harrell conversation and some are saying I'm stating an officer shooting is the same as being called a name on a basketball court. I'm not.

A parent planting a seed in a small white person's brain that they are better than people of color is unacceptable. I think it's also unacceptable for a parent to plant a seed in a small black person's brain that all white people are in any way, shape or form better than or given an easier life. 100% of the world's issues are how people are raised. A good parent won't allow their kid to wallow in self pity or treat others with disrespect or be a bad human being.

A good parent teaches their kid to tackle the mountain ahead of them and move on to the next one. Along the way, treat everybody the same.

BNTEB - Be Nice to EveryBody

I don't think teaching kids to be racist works that way. I think it is rarely verbalized and it is picked up through lots of non verbal actions. Many "good" parents on this forum have probably unknowingly done it. How the heck do you change that? Especially if we don't understand how a child learns it.

 

[LoPo]

Thats what it seemed like you were saying to me.

I apologize. Wasn't my intention. Good parenting isn't perfect, but it's a more proven method of raising over anything else.