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Gameface said:
@Archie Moses

I think all of us value freedom of speech. I do think it is mostly radical far right personalities who feel as though freedom of speech no longer exists because they have been de-platformed by a commercial entity.

There is a discussion to be had about monopolies and their influence. But that's not been the claim or argument by these individuals.

Then there are their fans who carry the rally cry "freedom of speech! yargh!" who claim that freedom of speech no longer exists.

Fact is that freedom of speech DOES exist. And to bray like a rabid donkey that it doesn't is squarely on one side of the spectrum... the far right.
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I completely agree with you.
 
Gameface said:
@Archie Moses

I think all of us value freedom of speech. I do think it is mostly radical far right personalities who feel as though freedom of speech no longer exists because they have been de-platformed by a commercial entity.

There is a discussion to be had about monopolies and their influence. But that's not been the claim or argument by these individuals.

Then there are their fans who carry the rally cry "freedom of speech! yargh!" who claim that freedom of speech no longer exists.

Fact is that freedom of speech DOES exist. And to bray like a rabid donkey that it doesn't is squarely on one side of the spectrum... the far right.
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these dudes seem to believe that freedom of speech can only truly exist if there’s also an absence of cultural shame structures. Well, the latter have obviously changed over time, but they are as old as the species.

In short, say what you want, but don’t envision some fantasy world where nobody rises up to shame you for it. When that happens, you can call it “fate.”
 
I think Archie has been pretty patient here.

Has he posted stupid ****? Sure. I'm certainly not going to be the one to throw stones on that.

But ****ing hell, the guy is open to honest discussion. Give him a break.

If I could I would award Archie two Jazfanz awards

Lifetime Most Personal Growth -- not even close, he takes this.

Current Most Unbiased Poster -- again, I think he runs away with it.

He might post stuff you think is "off limits" but he usually does it while asking actual honest questions about the content. It would be cool if people would just take him at his word and engage him on the very reasonable and honest terms he lays out.
 
NAOS said:
Ok. Post your poll.
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The whole idea behind doing something so silly to that extent is the difference between you and I. It's like you're trapped back in middle school. You get off on the idea of making fun of people and their appearances or making polls like, "who does Jazzfanz like more? Dutch or Thriller?" You usually only show up when there's a bunch of people laying into someone like a beta hyena.

You're so cool, NAOS. You must be so manly and ultra good looking. You tuff and bad ***.
 
Archie Moses said:
The whole idea behind doing something so silly to that extent is the difference between you and I. It's like you're trapped back in middle school. You get off on the idea of making fun of people and their appearances or making polls like, "who does Jazzfanz like more? Dutch or Thriller?" You usually only show up when there's a bunch of people laying into someone like a beta hyena.

You're so cool, NAOS. You must be so manly and ultra good looking. You tuff and bad ***.
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you’ve misrecognized One Brow in the last couple of pages. Im just trying to help you see a different perspective and correct the misrecognition.
 
Gameface said:
I think Archie has been pretty patient here.

Has he posted stupid ****? Sure. I'm certainly not going to be the one to throw stones on that.

But ****ing hell, the guy is open to honest discussion. Give him a break.

If I could I would award Archie two Jazfanz awards

Lifetime Most Personal Growth -- not even close, he takes this.

Current Most Unbiased Poster -- again, I think he runs away with it.

He might post stuff you think is "off limits" but he usually does it while asking actual honest questions about the content. It would be cool if people would just take him at his word and engage him on the very reasonable and honest terms he lays out.
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I think you should check your brake fluid and then start pumping the pedal a little bit. Or a lot.
 
Gameface said:
I think Archie has been pretty patient here.

Has he posted stupid ****? Sure. I'm certainly not going to be the one to throw stones on that.

But ****ing hell, the guy is open to honest discussion. Give him a break.

If I could I would award Archie two Jazfanz awards

Lifetime Most Personal Growth -- not even close, he takes this.

Current Most Unbiased Poster -- again, I think he runs away with it.

He might post stuff you think is "off limits" but he usually does it while asking actual honest questions about the content. It would be cool if people would just take him at his word and engage him on the very reasonable and honest terms he lays out.
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Thanks, man.

I'll be the first one to admit I've posted stupid **** or I'm wrong.
 
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