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Police Power and Racial Tensions in Ferguson, Missouri

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-from-the-front-had-marijuana-in-his-system/

Looks like Brown just had pot in his system. It is hard to place guilt when there are conflicting accounts. However, when a surveillance video shows brown and a friend (who was a main witness to the shooting) forcefully robbing a convenience store, it is going to make me less trusting of such witness. I'm not saying I trust a cop's friend either, but it is hard to not take into account the fact they had both just forcefully robbed a store.

It is crazy that we jump to conclusions on either side. Race issues are still a very large divider, and comments and both sides of this on most news websites shows how much racism and hate are still inside people of all colors. Pretty sad.

Allegedly

As has been mentioned before, you generally have sizable levels of marijuana in your system long after your are high.

But we both know it will not play out that way and will influence a jury somewhat. Perhaps rightfully so.
 
Generally when you get a mass of people to protest, there are not going to be good results simply due to the disorganization. The most successful protests have been those that are well organized.

It's much more complicated than that. On Aug 14, there were peaceful demonstrations across the country, which were not highly organized.

https://ktla.com/2014/08/14/protest...nationwide-day-of-rage-over-ferguson-killing/

I'm not sure what happened w week ago Sunday. However, what happened last Tuesday and Wednesday seems to have been partially in response to police tactics, and what happened this past weekend was, according to the police, seemingly pre-orchestrated violence, at least in part.
 
Seriously. I would be protesting in the police chief's neighborhood. Tearing down your own neighborhood does not make a lot of sense to me.

It's quite easy to lack of sense of ownership in the neighborhood where you live.
 
As has been mentioned before, you generally have sizable levels of marijuana in your system long after your are high.

Yep. Based on what I read, the cop believed Brown was "on something" due to his alleged continued attack after being shot. I doubt pot would have that effect anyway. Just thinking through this, if Brown was facing the officer, unless he was charging head down, how would a bullet go from the top of his head into his clavicle? From the video it seems like Brown is a big dude. Then again, he could have charged after being shot the first time, when he could have had his hands up. I don't see clear cut evidence either way.

Robbing a store without a weapon should not get you killed (generally). The fact is, the police get preferential treatment in the courtroom 100% of the time. It is just the way our justice system works, especially in situations where there are no video recording. That said, if I am a juror, I would generally take a cop and his friend's word over someone that had just forcibly robbed a convenience store. Does anyone else on here really feel any different?

The hypocritical thing to me is people in the Brown party are trying to say that the police are trying to make Brown seem like a thug that deserved it based on the video, and now releasing he was on pot. The fact is, the dude was a thug. These same supporters try and make him seem like a model citizen by stating he was about to start college. So ****ing what? So college students can't be criminals? Both sides are trying to paint a picture. Hopefully additional evidence comes out that clears it up one way or the other. But based on the burden of guilt in our justice system, I would have a hard time finding the cop guilty of murder based on the evidence presented.
 
Yep. Based on what I read, the cop believed Brown was "on something" due to his alleged continued attack after being shot. I doubt pot would have that effect anyway. Just thinking through this, if Brown was facing the officer, unless he was charging head down, how would a bullet go from the top of his head into his clavicle? From the video it seems like Brown is a big dude. Then again, he could have charged after being shot the first time, when he could have had his hands up. I don't see clear cut evidence either way.

Brown could also have already been on the ground for the head-shot. If Brown was charging head-down, I don't think he could have been shot in the neck.

Robbing a store without a weapon should not get you killed (generally). The fact is, the police get preferential treatment in the courtroom 100% of the time. It is just the way our justice system works, especially in situations where there are no video recording. That said, if I am a juror, I would generally take a cop and his friend's word over someone that had just forcibly robbed a convenience store. Does anyone else on here really feel any different?

The plain fact of being police does not make them more trustworthy in my eyes.

The fact is, the dude was a thug.

Thugs don't generally enroll in technical college. You are tossing the word "fact" around very loosely, based on a misdemeanor and the use of a very common drug.

So college students can't be criminals?

The can be. Most of this country's most successful criminals graduated from Ivy League colleges. However, college is not a conducive environment for a thug.
 
Yep. Based on what I read, the cop believed Brown was "on something" due to his alleged continued attack after being shot. I doubt pot would have that effect anyway. Just thinking through this, if Brown was facing the officer, unless he was charging head down, how would a bullet go from the top of his head into his clavicle? From the video it seems like Brown is a big dude. Then again, he could have charged after being shot the first time, when he could have had his hands up. I don't see clear cut evidence either way.

Robbing a store without a weapon should not get you killed (generally). The fact is, the police get preferential treatment in the courtroom 100% of the time. It is just the way our justice system works, especially in situations where there are no video recording. That said, if I am a juror, I would generally take a cop and his friend's word over someone that had just forcibly robbed a convenience store. Does anyone else on here really feel any different?

The hypocritical thing to me is people in the Brown party are trying to say that the police are trying to make Brown seem like a thug that deserved it based on the video, and now releasing he was on pot. The fact is, the dude was a thug. These same supporters try and make him seem like a model citizen by stating he was about to start college. So ****ing what? So college students can't be criminals? Both sides are trying to paint a picture. Hopefully additional evidence comes out that clears it up one way or the other. But based on the burden of guilt in our justice system, I would have a hard time finding the cop guilty of murder based on the evidence presented.

The video and the marijuana does not help the brown family in getting a conviction imo. 6 shots and one into the top of the head, if factual, do not help the officer imo.

Also read that the officer was treated for face injuries after the shooting and that that the first shot was fired from inside the cruiser. If so that only adds more weight to the officers story.
 
It's too bad Brown had to die.
But generally in these kind of encounters both sides have made a series of stupid decisions that finally end badly.
Cop seemed like he was trying to wound Brown to stop him. He shot him on the right side away from heart.
Seems like as Brown stumbled or went down from wounds cop kept shooting and shot him in head.
Just speculating.
May never know what actually happened.
This ended badly for all involved.
 
The video and the marijuana does not help the brown family in getting a conviction imo. 6 shots and one into the top of the head, if factual, do not help the officer imo.

Also read that the officer was treated for face injuries after the shooting and that that the first shot was fired from inside the cruiser. If so that only adds more weight to the officers story.


They saying Michael Brown charged the officer.


There is a rumor out there that Michael Brown charged the cop after he had already assaulted the cop. That's supposedly the cops side of the story. There is also a video that you can hear in the back ground someone saying the Michael Brown charged the cop.


Here is that video.

The part in question runs from about 6:00 minutes to 9:00. Its hard to hear, so you have to listen closely. Give it a listen and see what you think. There is the most around the 7 min mark and about 8:30. But all of it should be listened to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKKWBNSqtS0
 
This is a great video. This guy details it all out.


I think this cop is probably going to get off if this is all true. If so, I wonder how big drama will get?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pr1oE34bIM
 
That is very interesting. But to be honest I am not a fan, all that does is potentially put his family at risk.

Well according to reports they ID'd the wrong guy. I can understand the outrage and even the looting to a certain extent but pointing the wrong finger at someone can have horrible consequences.

I was in LA when the cops got off after the Rodney King beating. Another shameful event, I was afraid, bullets were being fired randomly around LA, fires were set and looting occurred and then the some blacks guys pulled a white guy out of a truck and beat the snot out of him.

I remember how outraged I was when I saw the King beating and remember many white people justifying it or defending the cops. Some of my minority friends told my wife to leave work early because the "**** was going to hit the fan". It was a scary time but this Missouri situation is just as ridiculous. There is absolutely no reason for a policeman to shoot a person who isn't armed let alone 6 times.
 
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