Police Power and Racial Tensions in Ferguson, Missouri

[LogGrad98]

Context. This is a race issue. Period. And I"m of the opinion that most white people have no footing when it comes to these issues. What do you or I know about 400+ years of oppression, being a minority in the South? This is crucial information needed to assess this specific situation. Information, I'm willing to bet, maybe 1 or 2 member of this forum have...if that.

State your opinion all you want, I'm stating mine. I'm just expressing my frustration with this situation and using this notoriously homogeneous message board to vent.

I fully concede the point that we are likely not as versed in racial issues as are certain other groups. I am a white guy and of course see the world through the white guy's viewpoint, no matter how many ethnic friends I have or how much I make an effort to celebrate diversity. However this is the world we live in, and if we are hell-bent on excluding large segments of the population from making any decisions, or having any opinions or influence, on topics to which they cannot "relate" then we need to go back to a fully segregated society, not in terms of slavery obviously, but let's just get all the mormons to their own place, give the muslims their place, give all the blacks their place, all the whites theirs, etc. so that no one has to worry about interacting with someone to whom they might not "relate". Right wrong or indifferent we all live to together and have to find a way to coexist, and even thrive, together, and that can never happen if we cannot have open dialogue about these issues simply because our skin isn't the right color to "relate".

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

I fully concede the point that we are likely not as versed in racial issues as are certain other groups. I am a white guy and of course see the world through the white guy's viewpoint, no matter how many ethnic friends I have or how much I make an effort to celebrate diversity. However this is the world we live in, and if we are hell-bent on excluding large segments of the population from making any decisions, or having any opinions or influence, on topics to which they cannot "relate" then we need to go back to a fully segregated society, not in terms of slavery obviously, but let's just get all the mormons to their own place, give the muslims their place, give all the blacks their place, all the whites theirs, etc. so that no one has to worry about interacting with someone to whom they might not "relate". Right wrong or indifferent we all live to together and have to find a way to coexist, and even thrive, together, and that can never happen if we cannot have open dialogue about these issues simply because our skin isn't the right color to "relate".

If this happened, we live on Earth in completely segregated societies, would Earth be better over the long-haul? I ask seriously.

 

[LogGrad98]

Minus the hyperbole, yes, I think this cop did not act in good faith. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

I'm frustrated by those trying to justify this cops actions because I wholeheartedly disagree, with every ounce of my being. Those analysing this situation trying so hard to leave race relations out of this boggles my mind.

Ferguson, MO = 67% Black
Ferguson Police = 96% White

Come on....

So you are frustrated that you have come to a conclusion, admittedly without all the facts, (the cop is guilty) and other people, also without all the facts, are coming to a different conclusion?

 

[JAZZGASM]

Minus the hyperbole, yes, I think this cop did not act in good faith. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

I'm frustrated by those trying to justify this cops actions because I wholeheartedly disagree, with every ounce of my being. Those analysing this situation trying so hard to leave race relations out of this boggles my mind.

Ferguson, MO = 67% Black
Ferguson Police = 96% White

Come on....

First, I don't think 67% is correct. So maybe they should hire more cops with diversity.

How about when a woman gets shot and cops make up 95% of the police force. Gender oppression! OMG!

 

[Stoked]

Context. This is a race issue. Period. And I"m of the opinion that most white people have no footing when it comes to these issues. What do you or I know about 400+ years of oppression, being a minority in the South? This is crucial information needed to assess this specific situation. Information, I'm willing to bet, maybe 1 or 2 member of this forum have...if that.

State your opinion all you want, I'm stating mine. I'm just expressing my frustration with this situation and using this notoriously homogeneous message board to vent.

I agree that it does bring a unique and valuable viewpoint to the debate. But it is not the only one that should be listened to. Doing so only guarantees that the debate goes no where and no progress is made.

Some questions:

Are all cases involving a death where the people involved are different races a race issue or just this one?

Should white people be given an equal platform for opinions on race as any other race?

What is the goal, in your mind, for race relations and how should that goal be achieved?

Sincere questions as I want your honest opinion.

 

[LogGrad98]

If this happened, we live on Earth in completely segregated societies, would Earth be better over the long-haul? I ask seriously.

Interesting thought exercise. The biggest issue of course would be resources. To even be viable as a point of discussion you would have to somehow guarantee equality of resources to remove the need for wars in the future over scarce resources.

 

[Stoked]

If this happened, we live on Earth in completely segregated societies, would Earth be better over the long-haul? I ask seriously.

No. These groups would then war with each other and it would only increase the racial tensions. The earth, and all that it contains, would be profoundly worse off imo.

 

[LogGrad98]

Interesting thought exercise. The biggest issue of course would be resources. To even be viable as a point of discussion you would have to somehow guarantee equality of resources to remove the need for wars in the future over scarce resources.

No. These groups would then war with each other and it would only increase the racial tensions. The earth, and all that it contains, would be profoundly worse off imo.

Hah, beat you to it.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

I can't wait for this thread to die.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

I fully concede the point that we are likely not as versed in racial issues as are certain other groups. I am a white guy and of course see the world through the white guy's viewpoint, no matter how many ethnic friends I have or how much I make an effort to celebrate diversity. However this is the world we live in, and if we are hell-bent on excluding large segments of the population from making any decisions, or having any opinions or influence, on topics to which they cannot "relate" then we need to go back to a fully segregated society, not in terms of slavery obviously, but let's just get all the mormons to their own place, give the muslims their place, give all the blacks their place, all the whites theirs, etc. so that no one has to worry about interacting with someone to whom they might not "relate". Right wrong or indifferent we all live to together and have to find a way to coexist, and even thrive, together, and that can never happen if we cannot have open dialogue about these issues simply because our skin isn't the right color to "relate".

I totally agree with all of this. I was stating my opinion on other's opinions, and hopefully injecting some additional things to think about. Aaaaaand getting frustrated with **** people were saying, well mostly the garbage JAZZGASM spews. I'm not trying to silence anyone, just expressing my lens.

Opinions bro, they're like herpes, everyone's gottem. Amirite?

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Context. This is a race issue. Period. And I"m of the opinion that most white people have no footing when it comes to these issues. What do you or I know about 400+ years of oppression, being a minority in the South? This is crucial information needed to assess this specific situation. Information, I'm willing to bet, maybe 1 or 2 member of this forum have...if that.

State your opinion all you want, I'm stating mine. I'm just expressing my frustration with this situation and using this notoriously homogeneous message board to vent.

As an authentic Russian accentor I guarantee you the racists here have no clue. I have been victim of Russophobia my whole life. Most are not in the consciousness to understand what they are doing upon us.

 

[LogGrad98]

I can't wait for this thread to die.

You RAP is way too low, but I have to spread it around before giving it to you again my friend.