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♪alt13 said:
I think that governments were instituted for the purpose of protecting the property and privilege of the few. I believe this is still their primary function today and always will be so long as we continue to centralize decision making in so few leaders and institutions. I believe the government cannot get out of the welfare business because it's system of property has condemned the vast majority of people to collect a mere fraction of the value of their labor. I think that the state has always lagged behind social change and has only come to accept it once it could no longer resist it.

I believe that we will replace not only the state but also megalithic corporations with institutions that better serve the people, though not in my lifetime.
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What you said about dooming people to collect only a small portion of their wealth really resonates with me. I don't pretend to know how to fix it, but I think it is a huge problem in our society.
 
I think that one of the main courses that should be taught in school is finance. And other things that will help children grow into productive adults.

Why do I need to know when the civil war was or who signed what treaty or whatever or many many other things I was taught in school.

What would have been nice was if i had learned about how to create and balance a budget, how to invest my money, how to work on things around the house like painting, doing tile, replacing carpet and many other things. Teach me about how a lease for a car works and why it's better or worse than not leasing. Teach me about interest and how devastating it can be. Have an honest class about substance abuse and the dangers of it.
Basically imo high school should teach kids how to be a productive and functioning adult.
College should be where someone learns how to excel in a specific industry/job.
 
So a lot of people are really opposed to the free public college idea. What if we framed it differently and changed the way high school was structured? What if High school was more like what Fish said, and helped people to succeed better at life, and could be extended to a vocational school, on public money?

It would be awesome if these kids came out of school ready for jobs, ready to manage their money a little better. If kids learned the way an auto loan works from school rather than from defaulting on their first one, that would be pretty great.

College could be improved if people were encouraged to get degrees and programs in vocational skills like electrician work, plumbing, HVAC technician, etc instead of trying for two years to figure out that they don't like studying english and literature.
 
Jamezz said:
Eliminate both the income and corporate taxes and watch this country flourish.
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Please explain your reasoning in this. If we eliminated this tax, where would the money for roads and infrastructure come from?

If you are not proposing any increases in other taxes like sales tax, luxury tax, property tax, etc, how do you propose to pay for essential government programs like law enforcement?
 
I also think rather than taxing the rich excessively, give them incentives to spend their money.

Basically, the rich are almost always gonna make money. It's the middle class/poor we're worried about. Instead of the government helping them, have the local business owner do it. Provide incentives to spend, people buy equipment, buildings, etc...it creates jobs and it's not a temporary fix.
 
#bern said:
Dude, I've been harping on the trade school thing for a while.

Problem is that it isn't a "sexy" job. Which is dumb.
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I do remember seeing some posts from you on that. I think it can even be taken a step further to change the way our engineers are trained. I really don't think it benefits future engineers to have to take courses in humanities, etc. In the past, it was probably pretty beneficial to see how other people think in this world, but we have so many media outlets these days, that people are exposed to so many different trains of thought.
 
Agree with Fish, Legalize It! Though I might take it a step further and go the Portugal route, where pretty much all drug use is decriminalized.
 
Siro said:
Humanity survived for tens of thousands of years before that dynamic was invented, and it will survive long after it had become obsolete.

As for me, I believe life has no purpose other than what you create for yourself, and no meaning aside from the coincidence that the conditions of the universe allowed for our existence. Ideologically, I am often amazed at the limit of individual knowledge and understanding, and I find my views changing and evolving with time. Currently, I believe that humanity's moral and material progress is correlated to technological advancement, and I shape my worldview around whichever system enables that. I think market economy is good at it, and thus I am partial to it. But I am always eager to learn about alternative paradigms.
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Do you mean back when people could lean on their whole tribe? I think there is something to the idea that the shrinking family unit significantly burdens people. Less people cooperating is usually going to create less prosperity. I can't imagine having to go it alone in this world. I've failed too often not to think that I would be much worse off. I feel incredibly lucky to have a partner and a fairly large tribe of extended family that I can rely on.
 
b_line said:
So a lot of people are really opposed to the free public college idea. What if we framed it differently and changed the way high school was structured? What if High school was more like what Fish said, and helped people to succeed better at life, and could be extended to a vocational school, on public money?

It would be awesome if these kids came out of school ready for jobs, ready to manage their money a little better. If kids learned the way an auto loan works from school rather than from defaulting on their first one, that would be pretty great.

College could be improved if people were encouraged to get degrees and programs in vocational skills like electrician work, plumbing, HVAC technician, etc instead of trying for two years to figure out that they don't like studying english and literature.
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Nailed it 100%. Especially that last paragraph. Lots of kids just go to college cause they just figure that is what they are supposed to do after high school. They often don't have a plan or any direction.
For many, college is a very expensive waste of time that sets a person back many years.
It shouldn't.
 
#bern said:
Dude, I've been harping on the trade school thing for a while.

Problem is that it isn't a "sexy" job. Which is dumb.
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Agree.
Trade school is fantastic imo. Most people (like myself) don't realize it until way too late though
 
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