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[fishonjazz]

LMAO why is byu always so obsessed with "never evar losing a game again!" It's like if they just say they won't ever lose again it makes it ok that they just lost.


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Just retarded.... obviously they are going to lose again this season.
Probably starting next saturday.
I figure best case scenario they lose 3 more games.
Most likely they will lose 4 or 5 more.

 

[leftyjace]

Also, weather was as bad as it gets.... there was like a 3 hour delay..... and to me the biggest play of the game was when byu punted and virginia was going to have the ball on thier own 20 or something.
But there was a penalty saying that unga was lined up in the backfield and byu would have to re-do the punt.
They didn't show a replay of the penalty so I rewound it to see it for my self.
He was not lined up in the backfield and on the re-do punt he was in the same damn spot on the line and no penalty was called.

Punter miss-handles the snap (due to a wet *** ball) and the punt is blocked and virginia takes over deep in the red zone.

One of the worst thing about being independent is that in every game the refs are from the opponents conference

OK, I can't account for the refs, so I won't comment on that.

But why oh why do you keep talking about the weather? Are you implying that Virginia didn't have to put up with the same exact weather, therefore it was an unfair advantage to Virginia?
I just don't get it. Why are you talking about something that affected both teams?

 

[fishonjazz]

OK, I can't account for the refs, so I won't comment on that.

But why oh why do you keep talking about the weather? Are you implying that Virginia didn't have to put up with the same exact weather, therefore it was an unfair advantage to Virginia?
I just don't get it. Why are you talking about something that affected both teams?

I'm not saying the weather affected byu more or less than virginia.
Just saying it changed the game, made it a little crazier and brought more chance into the equation.

Look at it like this.
Lets say utah is playing oregon.
Now oregon would be big favorites and everyone would give the utes no chance.

Now it rains like crazy on gameday and there is a huge delay the combinatnion of which causes more chaos.

Now oregon would still be favored but utah could hope that oregon would play sloppy and maybe lose some fumbled and have some bad snaps ect.

Meanwhile maybe the utes luckily don't have those same type of issues

Here is main point.
That type of wild weather can even the playing field a little.... not a ton but a little.

I think ute fans would much rather play oregon in a monsoon than a dome with perfect conditions.

I believe that if byu played virginia next week with hoffman in the lineup and perfect weather that they would win... I understand if you disagree with that.

Byu did gain a lot more yards than virginia but all the unusual crazy plays caused in part by weather happened to go virginias way.

And yes byus offense sucked but thier offense and defense both playedbetter statiscally than virginia

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Sure these ar excuses and they don't matter, but they are also facts.

Pointing out a missed call is a slippery slope. How about the missed call on BYU's first TD drive? The big play on that drive came as Hill released a pass as he crossed the line of scrimmage. I rewound it several times and it was most certainly an illegal forward pass. More times than not, those missed calls work both ways.

That O-line is bad. Real bad. Losing to Virginia is a huge red flag. That is not a good football team. Texas is going to roll in Provo.

 

[Deleted member 365]

OK, I can't account for the refs, so I won't comment on that.

But why oh why do you keep talking about the weather? Are you implying that Virginia didn't have to put up with the same exact weather, therefore it was an unfair advantage to Virginia?
I just don't get it. Why are you talking about something that affected both teams?

This.

Ill never understand the "weather" complaints made in football. It's a wash. Both teams have to play in it. Whether you're a running or passing team. It always becomes harder to play in the elements. Anyone else try to block somebody in the snow? You slip and fall on your face. Make a tackle on a shifty RB? Good luck. Pass the ball? Catch it? Snap? Scrape? Kick? I played every single position in football except for QB and kicker. And everything becomes harder in the elements. No one team was favored by the rain yesterday. Evidenced by Virginia's 13 punts. BYU's QB play sucked, evidenced by a sub .300 QB rating.

Lets just call it the way it is. The O line sucks, the WRs aren't athletic, and Riley Nelson sucks at QB.

It's the same team as last year: great defense horrible offense

 

[fishonjazz]

Pointing out a missed call is a slippery slope. How about the missed call on BYU's first TD drive? The big play on that drive came as Hill released a pass as he crossed the line of scrimmage. I rewound it several times and it was most certainly an illegal forward pass. More times than not, those missed calls work both ways.

That O-line is bad. Real bad. Losing to Virginia is a huge red flag. That is not a good football team. Texas is going to roll in Provo.

I agree about them missing that call.... I thought the same thing.

There are differences in the degree a missed call effects the game though.

Maybe if they get the call on taysom byu still get the td. (The way byus offense played probably not) worst case byu punts into the end zone and puts virginia on the 20.

But the bad call on the punt against byu we KNOW for fact that if they don't blow that call, virginia gets the ball deep in thier own territory and they were not ever able to move the ball against byus defense all day (ncaa record most punts in a game by virginia... no plays over 20 yards all game.... 6 out of 20 on 3rd down)

Instead they get a blocked punt and get the ball deep in the red zone.

Biggest play of the entire game came due to a horrible call by the refs.

 

[fishonjazz]

This.

Ill never understand the "weather" complaints made in football. It's a wash. Both teams have to play in it. Whether you're a running or passing team. It always becomes harder to play in the elements. Anyone else try to block somebody in the snow? You slip and fall on your face. Make a tackle on a shifty RB? Good luck. Pass the ball? Catch it? Snap? Scrape? Kick? I played every single position in football except for QB and kicker. And everything becomes harder in the elements. No one team was favored by the rain yesterday. Evidenced by Virginia's 13 punts. BYU's QB play sucked, evidenced by a sub .300 QB rating.

Lets just call it the way it is. The O line sucks, the WRs aren't athletic, and Riley Nelson sucks at QB.

It's the same team as last year: great defense horrible offense

Like I said though...... if byu was playing alabama tomorrow I would much rather play against them in a monsoon.

In perfect weather I know that byu has no chance in hell.

In a monsoon they can at least hope that the weather screws with bama more than byu.

Bad weather is good for the underdog cause it gives them more of a chance for the game to be UNPREDICTABLE

 

[fishonjazz]

Underdogs are underdogs because people are predicting the game to go a certain way.....
Therefore the more unpredictable a game is, the better for the underdog team.

 

[Former Member]

Underdogs are underdogs because people are predicting the game to go a certain way.....
Therefore the more unpredictable a game is, the better for the underdog team.

Didn't the underdog Utes beat Alabama in a dome? I think you are reaching a bit here. BYU lost because they struggled offensively and they turned the ball over, it happens. Look at all the "upsets" that happened this week... not all of them were caused because of unpredictability. Sometimes, they were caused because the underdog just happened to play a better football game than their opponent.

Who knows? Maybe the underdog Cougars beat Texas next week? It could easily happen; however, if your QB's completion percentage is below a baseball batting average, it probably will not.

 

[Former Member]

Also, being the underdog is merely a perception. The game determines who the better team was on any given day.

 

[scootsy]

love how many ute fans are interested in byu's game/season. especially considering they are the ones always calling for abandoning the rivalry for good. lol.

 

[UGLI baby]

love how many ute fans are interested in byu's game/season. especially considering they are the ones always calling for abandoning the rivalry for good. lol.

I want to abandon the rivalry partly to shove it in yor face.