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Poll: Should the Conley Experiment End?

Should the Conley Experiment End?

  • Yes, stick him on the bench and move him in the off-season

    Votes: 30 50.8%

  • No, keep him in the starting lineup and see if he turns it around

    Votes: 8 13.6%

  • Bear with him and be hopeful that he turns it around next season

    Votes: 6 10.2%

  • Play him but actively pursue moving him behind the scene

    Votes: 15 25.4%
  • Total voters
    59
J-mac23 said:
I haven't posted here in a long time, but I think this is a good time to remind people of this:

https://www.deseret.com/platform/am...edly-does-not-want-to-get-traded-to-utah-jazz

I don't think Conley ever wanted to be on the team, and it shows. But the front office wanted to get him at all costs anyway.
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I think the report was true, but I think he wants to be here... it just doesn't seem like a natural fit. Like how Ricky and that team came together it was a different vibe. I'm not sure he's bought in.

It's kinda like having you old friends from high school and then an outsider comes in... like you are cool with the guy, but he's not one of the original homies and will never be as good a fit in the group.

Will be interesting when our front office sticks their head in the sand and says it will work rather than admitting defeat and making a change. I should write their end of year press conference before it happens because it will be predictable AF.
 
Conley is not the problem, jus a part of it. After watching the game last night its pretty clear everyone is being lazy. That isn't on Conley. That's on the coaches.
 
LoPo said:
We could easily add Davis to Charlotte. They have a ton of cap space, the need for post depth, and they aren't a destination for an average free agent class.

So...

Knicks get Conley and draft stuff from Cha
Cha get Randle and Davis
Jazz get Ntilikina and a 2nd from Cha

We clear cap, admit our Conley mistake, and get a perimeter defender we hope restarts his career by playing with buddies Rudy and Donovan.

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My bigger worry is that DL gets Exum flashbacks with Frank and pays him 200%-300% of his real value on an extension.

I'm not a big Frank believer, but every player in NY is at least 20% better than they have showed... and if you look at him as just a defender who brings the ball up the floor I think he could be solid. If he gives you more than that call it a bonus.
 
Beer said:
Conley is not the problem, jus a part of it. After watching the game last night its pretty clear everyone is being lazy. That isn't on Conley. That's on the coaches.
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Last night everyone fully participated in the **** show... Conley has been a big picture problem... but to get back to your point part of it is coaching. If everyone is unmotivated or unfocused that is at least partly on the coach.

The idea that we had to force Mike into the starting lineup... because that's what we have to do... when the team was rolling was dumb. Just keep him coming off the bench. Limit his minutes. It's a common thing for older players to do... it gets us to our best lineups.

Mike with Joe in the starting lineup makes us much smaller and less athletic... would be fine if it opened up stuff for Rudy and if Mike and Joe had some chemistry going... but they do not... its quite the opposite.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
My bigger worry is that DL gets Exum flashbacks with Frank and pays him 200%-300% of his real value on an extension.

I'm not a big Frank believer, but every player in NY is at least 20% better than they have showed... and if you look at him as just a defender who brings the ball up the floor I think he could be solid. If he gives you more than that call it a bonus.
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The kid is still just 20 or 21 with loads of potential. NY is such a dumpster fire it's hard to know how good he could be. Crazy thing is that 4 years of an Exum extension is Conley's contract amount. For just next year....

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LoPo said:
The kid is still just 20 or 21 with loads of potential. NY is such a dumpster fire it's hard to know how good he could be. Crazy thing is that 4 years of an Exum extension is Conley's contract amount. For just next year....

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I agree... NY is terrible... they have given their prospects no real plan and zero space on the floor to execute it. A lot of selfish play on offense.

I just don't think he's a high potential guy... I think he could be a really good glue guy... maybe even elite if he develops and stays healthy. I'm thinking like a Pat Bev type... I don't see him as some untapped playmaker. I think he would theoretically be a good fit alongside DM and JC though... so there is that.
 
LoPo said:
The kid is still just 20 or 21 with loads of potential. NY is such a dumpster fire it's hard to know how good he could be. Crazy thing is that 4 years of an Exum extension is Conley's contract amount. For just next year....

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Frank could be the glue that keeps Rudy and DM together too... French kid, but him and DM are close... could be really helpful there.
 
sahlensguy said:
Personel wise it's not built around him though and that's the problem. No other great defenders, but we want to be a top team built around a defensive center.
If you have the best defender in the world you can stick him on an island like we have done, or build the world's best defense around him.

The best defender we've had to go along with him in this era is Donte friggin Exum...

We've never built around him.
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Maybe G Hill is actually to blame... He was a great piece that the Jazz were smart to get and he fit the versatile and defensive minded player mold. He could have been a great building block that could compliment a defensive team build and he ran away as fast as he could. Its all George Hills fault we are stuck with Conley's worthless ***.
 
Ready... Everyone keeps screaming Mike isn't the problem... well he's part of it.

Our record with Mike in the lineup 19-15... with him in the starting lineup 15-13... compare that with 17-6 without him and 21-8 without him in the starting lineup.

The schedule was softer in the non-Conley sample, but look the guy is shooting 39.4% from the field and 35.2% from 3 and he is not a good defender at this point in his career. His 3P shot was off when he came off the bench but his overall percentage was 45%... we were 4-2 in that span... just do it. Let's put the ball in his hand on the second unit and let him go to work. Even if it doesn't work it will limit his minutes which is a good thing for everyone imo.
 
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