Portland

[jope]

Our system is defense and passing. Not sure he really does fit that system.

I mean, his 6.6 assists per game would be tops on our current team by 1 and half more than the next person (rubio at 5.3 apg), and his defense (DBPM) is similar to Exum's output this year...

Even then, his Offense is so much better than anyone has produced on our team this year --> OBPM is nearly 4 times better than anyone on our team (7.7 OBPM > Joe Ingles' team high 2.1 OBPM)

 

[candrew]

Lillard also plays hero ball and no defense, so yeah.

You are right tho. He is a fan favorite and a good dude overall. The smartest move is probably trading CJ, who is also a wildly overrated ball dancer.

I feel the same way about CJ - he also had a noticeable drop in his efficiency numbers right after getting paid. Huge red flag.

 

[gregbroncs]

I mean, his 6.6 assists per game would be tops on our current team by 1 and half more than the next person (rubio at 5.3 apg), and his defense (DBPM) is similar to Exum's output this year...

Even then, his Offense is so much better than anyone has produced on our team this year --> OBPM is nearly 4 times better than anyone on our team (7.7 OBPM > Joe Ingles' team high 2.1 OBPM)

He has control of the ball more than any of our players during the course of any given game. He won't get that here.

He's a great player and the Jazz should probably get him if they could. But I literally think this is the worst possible destination for his skill set. He needs the ball a lot to produce like he does and he would be asked to do a lot more on defense if he came here.

 

[JazzGal]

I'm sad for Lillard. He's my hometown's hero (Ogden UT) and I really hoped he'd have a great playoffs (until he ran into the Jazz, of course).

 

[Game6Conley]

Random question: Do you guys think that the jazz would be willing to trade Donovan Mitchell for anyone in the nba? Would they do a mitchell for curry trade? AD? Lebron? harden? Durant? Embiid? Leonard? Giannis? I kind of think the answer is no but im curious what jazz fanz think?

Of course they would..... There's a decent sized list tbph...

James Harden is one of the greatest guards to ever play basketball, EASILY. Prime Mitchell won't peak like what we've seen from Harden these last 2 seasons, no way.

LeBron, Durant, AD, Giannis..

Kahwi isn't eligible cuz of the nature of his injury imo.

I'd trade him for Karl Towns and slot him in at PF next to Rudy...

I'd trade him for Ben Simmons too.

I know people wont like this response, but its true. Don't be a prisoner of the moment.

 

[jope]

He has control of the ball more than any of our players during the course of any given game. He won't get that here.

He's a great player and the Jazz should probably get him if they could. But I literally think this is the worst possible destination for his skill set. He needs the ball a lot to produce like he does and he would be asked to do a lot more on defense if he came here.

He and Donovan have nearly identical usage rates. The difference is Damian finishes his possessions with an assist 31% of the time while Donovan only 19%. Damian also shoots a better percentage, scores with better efficiency, and turns it over less.

Donovan, statistically, is also a negative defensive player. Not as bad as dame, but they aren’t far apart.

Donovan is one of the highest usage players in the league, with less passing than dame, and less efficiency, and is also a negative defender, yet it’s working out just fine, because we have good role players and a historically great defensive anchor.

Final point — DM is Damian 2.0. Who better to groom him?

It’s all moot because we can’t get dame anyway. I just don’t agree that he wouldn’t fit.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Knicks not Lnocks.

The Lnocks would be a bad destination.

 

[infection]

Of course they would..... There's a decent sized list tbph...

James Harden is one of the greatest guards to ever play basketball, EASILY.

And yet they wouldn’t trade Kanter for him, you think they’d trade Donovan for him? This isn’t an argument of who has more total talent, but personnel decisions are based on a lot more than total talent, and Donovan would rank up higher than Harden.

Imagine the Jazz trade Donovan for some superstar (don’t care who, insert any name), then that guy doesn’t resign in 2-3 years... DL gets fired for sure. The community wants the Millers’ heads.

 

[jope]

I'm sad for Lillard. He's my hometown's hero (Ogden UT) and I really hoped he'd have a great playoffs (until he ran into the Jazz, of course).

Same, I graduated from Weber the same year he was drafted and had a couple classes with him before he was big time. He’s a good person in real life which is rare among pro athletes.

 

[Game6Conley]

And yet they wouldn’t trade Kanter for him, you think they’d trade Donovan for him? This isn’t an argument of who has more total talent, but personnel decisions are based on a lot more than total talent, and Donovan would rank up higher than Harden.

Imagine the Jazz trade Donovan for some superstar (don’t care who, insert any name), then that guy doesn’t resign in 2-3 years... DL gets fired for sure. The community wants the Millers’ heads.

If you swapped Mitchell for James Harden, immediately they become the best Utah Jazz team ever assembled...They win near 60 games and are deadly serious championship contenders..

Harden is the starting PG on my all-time starting 5... next to Jordan, Durant, LeBron and 30 year old Wilt Chamberlain.

 

[zman1527]

Dame getting ripped on theScore by William Lou: no adjustments to Pels D, not playing an D himself. This has to be seriously depressing for Port fans. Watching your team go from 3 seed to non-competitive bums. From thinking you are absolutely on the right track to wanting to blow it all up. Yikes. How lucky we are.

 

[FarrakhanJazzFan]

No way in hell the Jazz trade Mitchell for Simmons. Maybe Giannis, Maybe Anthony Davis. But there isn't a chance in hell they want Simmons more than Mitchell.

You're a bit in denial on this. If (big if), Simmons learns how to shoot then you have a guy that comes close to LeBron's skill set. Even now he's a much bigger Jason Kidd which is pretty awesome.

The downside is he could become Blake Griffin if he loses a step and doesn't learn how to shoot consistently.