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Being from Ogden myself, I actually don't have a clue what they say about Ogden girls. What do they say?
Probably that since it's Ogden, it's likely they're Latina, which means by default, they have to be REALLY SCARY.

Not wanting Lillard on the Jazz would be ludicrous.
Thinking the Jazz can get Lillard would be ludicrous.

Guy I played ball with has worked in Weber's athletic department. Lillard's been nothing short of amazing as a person.
 
You're a bit in denial on this. If (big if), Simmons learns how to shoot then you have a guy that comes close to LeBron's skill set. Even now he's a much bigger Jason Kidd which is pretty awesome.

The downside is he could become Blake Griffin if he loses a step and doesn't learn how to shoot consistently.
Basketball stuff aside, Mitchell loves it here and is loved by the community.

Now the basketball stuff. Simmons is a PG that is a worse shooter from distance than Rubio has ever been. Who would you rather have Dwayne Wade or Jason Kidd? How about Wade with a jumpshot or Lebron without one? Frankly Simmons is a good player that may eventually become a decent shooter. However for this franchise at this time they are not trading Mitchell for Simmons. They simply would not. Mitchell is a better fit here and at this time a better player IMO.
 
If you think most pro athletes are bad people in real life, you're ignorant.

"Rare." Lol

I never said athletes were bad people, but please keep inferring what hits home for you. I said he was a good person, which is indeed rare. the majority of us are "meh" or below, athletes included.
 
Probably that since it's Ogden, it's likely they're Latina, which means by default, they have to be REALLY SCARY.

Not wanting Lillard on the Jazz would be ludicrous.
Thinking the Jazz can get Lillard would be ludicrous.

Guy I played ball with has worked in Weber's athletic department. Lillard's been nothing short of amazing as a person.


Haha! I mean to be fair, I've met some pretty scary Latina women in Ogden. Just don't tell my wife that (also an Ogden Latina).
 
You're a bit in denial on this. If (big if), Simmons learns how to shoot then you have a guy that comes close to LeBron's skill set. Even now he's a much bigger Jason Kidd which is pretty awesome.

The downside is he could become Blake Griffin if he loses a step and doesn't learn how to shoot consistently.

Simmons is a bit of a diva. He has an arrogance about him that probably wouldn't fit in well with our team. Not to mention he probably wouldn't want to play here. The Jazz wouldn't trade Mitchell for Simmons. And tbh as good as Simmons is I think that Mitchell has a higher ceiling. I'm not sure that Simmons will ever develop a jumper or become a go-to scorer.
 
You're a bit in denial on this. If (big if), Simmons learns how to shoot then you have a guy that comes close to LeBron's skill set. Even now he's a much bigger Jason Kidd which is pretty awesome.

The downside is he could become Blake Griffin if he loses a step and doesn't learn how to shoot consistently.

If Simmons learns to shoot is like saying if DM grows 6 inches. Guy has been in a gym his whole life... ain’t like he forgot to work on it.
 
Ok, guy...

Please point out where I said athletes are bad people. There is a difference between what I said and what you inferred, and if you can’t delineate that, well, that’s just ignorant. Also, I’m not your guy, buddy.
 
If Simmons learns to shoot is like saying if DM grows 6 inches. Guy has been in a gym his whole life... ain’t like he forgot to work on it.

Tony Parker and Jason Kidd got dramatically better at shooting through their careers. There have actually been lots of non-shooters who’ve learned to shoot at least a decent clip in their nba careers, so it isn’t a given he’ll be stuck like he is. I still prefer dm for this roster though.
 
Tony Parker and Jason Kidd got dramatically better at shooting through their careers. There have actually been lots of non-shooters who’ve learned to shoot at least a decent clip in their nba careers, so it isn’t a given he’ll be stuck like he is. I still prefer dm for this roster though.

Those guys at least attempted to shoot though Ben not so much... there have also been guys that grew later.

I just don’t like the notion that people keep selling “wait till he can shoot” like it is inevitably going to happen. It is a skill... sure but it is something that does not get figured out more often than not.

His shooting is so bad that a few experts think he shoots with the wrong hand.
 
Please point out where I said athletes are bad people. There is a difference between what I said and what you inferred, and if you can’t delineate that, well, that’s just ignorant. Also, I’m not your guy, buddy.
Please, reiterate what you meant by "He’s a good person in real life which is rare among pro athletes" then...
 
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