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[Handlogten's Heros]

Tony Parker and Jason Kidd got dramatically better at shooting through their careers. There have actually been lots of non-shooters who’ve learned to shoot at least a decent clip in their nba careers, so it isn’t a given he’ll be stuck like he is. I still prefer dm for this roster though.

As a 19 year old Tony Parker shot 68% from the free throw line and 32% from three on 2.5 attempts per game.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Karl Malone would be a better example of improving shooting that Simmon's could follow. For his sake hopefully he had Malone's work ethic to become a decent shooter.

Malone couldn't shoot free throws and had no jump shot coming into the NBA.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Tony Parker and Jason Kidd got dramatically better at shooting through their careers. There have actually been lots of non-shooters who’ve learned to shoot at least a decent clip in their nba careers, so it isn’t a given he’ll be stuck like he is. I still prefer dm for this roster though.

Jason Kidd shot 70% from the free throw line and 27% from three as a rookie. He at least shot it because he thought he could make it...

Ben shot worse from the free throw line than Shaq did as a rookie.... once Shaq can shoot he will be dominant.

Ben is and will be great... I’m going to go ahead and predict he is never a good shooter outside of 15 feet.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Karl Malone would be a better example of improving shooting that Simmon's could follow. For his sake hopefully he had Malone's work ethic to become a decent shooter.

Malone couldn't shoot free throws and had no jump shot coming into the NBA.

I guess but it was a different time... can u imagine a coach seeing that body in the gym and telling him to work on his jumper? He legitimately may not have worked on it until coming in the league.

Ben has had some free time the last couple years and the kids start working a lot earlier... he will get better at free throws but I’m not convinced he will ever reach Rondos level as a shooter.

 

[jope]

Please, reiterate what you meant by "He’s a good person in real life which is rare among pro athletes" then...

I did write a post for clarity above, but I guess you require repetition. Very few people in general are “good people” in my eyes, which is the subject of this entire conversation —> my opinion. Most of us are “meh” or below. This includes athletes.

There are areas between good and bad mate. Most of us, including me and most pro athletes alike, fall somewhere in between.

Lillard was and is a good person.
Between his community efforts, charitable contributions to so many places, homage and loyalty to past relationships, and patronage to small town local purveyors (he even flies back to Ogden to support some local tattoo artists, pays them 1000 an hour to do the job they normally charge 75 for) he goes above and beyond what most people do.

But it was awesome of you to spin what I said to try to drum up some drama. That is what the internet is for after all. Anyway, let me know if you need more help understanding brevity.

 

[jope]

Jason Kidd shot 70% from the free throw line and 27% from three as a rookie. He at least shot it because he thought he could make it...

Ben shot worse from the free throw line than Shaq did as a rookie.... once Shaq can shoot he will be dominant.

Ben is and will be great... I’m going to go ahead and predict he is never a good shooter outside of 15 feet.

I mean, Ben Simmons shot 33% from 3 in college (1 of 3 attempts lol) and 67% ft. I don’t know if he’ll ever get a decent shot or not. I’m just not convinced he won’t develop a satisfactory shot at some point because he has really finely developed motor skills in other areas. Shaq couldn’t shoot because he was on the other end of that spectrum.

 

[Archie Moses]

I stopped reading at "very few people are good." Honestly, I did. Even if it's true, what a ****** perspective to have. #glasshalffull

 

[Tak]

Tony Parker and Jason Kidd got dramatically better at shooting through their careers. There have actually been lots of non-shooters who’ve learned to shoot at least a decent clip in their nba careers, so it isn’t a given he’ll be stuck like he is. I still prefer dm for this roster though.

Neither had the terrible shot mechanics of Simmons though. Is not only a matter of improving a shot, is learning how to shoot at the late age of 21/22 years old. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it will require a huge amount of work and dedication from Simmons.

 

[Archie Moses]

Karl Malone would be a better example of improving shooting that Simmon's could follow. For his sake hopefully he had Malone's work ethic to become a decent shooter.

Malone couldn't shoot free throws and had no jump shot coming into the NBA.

I'm the biggest Malone fan I know and think Simmons could potentially have a better career. Thoughts?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y735v2qp


This the trade Portland should do.

Portland gets a more balanced starting lineup with more size. Fournier is a decent spot up guy, Simmons is an athletic slasher who can handle more than any of their current wings, and Isaac has a lot of potential as a modern 4.

Orlando finally gets a first option. Their "big 3" could be Gordon, McCollum, and whoever they draft this year (maybe Doncic?).

 

[jope]

I stopped reading at "very few people are good." Honestly, I did. Even if it's true, what a ****** perspective to have. #glasshalffull

Not trying to understand the perspective of others is ignorance, which just a matter of hours ago you seemed pretty vigilantly opposed to. But right on, you do you.

 

[jope]

Neither had the terrible shot mechanics of Simmons though. Is not only a matter of improving a shot, is learning how to shoot at the late age of 21/22 years old. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it will require a huge amount of work and dedication from Simmons.

The biggest factor imo is that he’s pretty damn good without a jumper already. He will easily have a long profitable career without any real improvement. Does he coast on his natural ability or does he go the extra mile and get that jump shot? I don’t know enough about his personality to predict that.