PoS fan who harassed Westbrook

[LoPo]

I'm trying to see both sides of this conversation. If the entire statement was - "Russ get on your knees like you are used to": it is not a reasonable person's reaction to call that racist. Not in the least bit really. At the end of the day however, a person can choose to interpret a statement how they choose to interpret it.

Everyone knows that Russ is a very emotionally raw nerve type of individual. Regardless, even if he perceived that statement to be racist, there is no justification for his actions. There is a major difference between a disparaging comment and a threat.

I'm looking forward to swift action by our organization in terms of the investigation of this incident. If that fan said more stuff that substantiates Russ' racist interpretation, then the fan needs to be banned from our arena for a long, long time if not forever. We should have a zero tolerance policy for anything related to stuff like that.

 

[fishonjazz]

One of my co workers was at the game last night and was in the same section where this all happened. He said that right after the incident happened the fans went after Westbrook even harder. Partly due to the threat by Westbrook and partly due to it being right after the play where Ingles got George in the face and then was trying to apologize to George and I guess Westbrook and the thunder bench were freaking out about jingles.
My co worker said that security removed the fan (I'm unsure if he was removed from the game permanently or just temporarily to get a warning card or something) and then started handing out warning cards to a bunch of other fans.

I had never heard of the warning cards but apparently they have like a list of stuff you can't say or do written on them and if you do any of that stuff you can get kicked out or banned.

One thing that I didn't know was against the rules is calling out an individual player. Apparently you can't use their name or number to identify them at all. So you can't say "Westbrook you suck" or "harden you are a flopper" or "draymond you look like the donkey from Shrek" (that might also be racist I'm guessing) etc etc.

I had no idea about that rule

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[fishonjazz]

The Indiana and Utah fanbases are both white, yes... and I can't think of any other difference that might exist between them. LOL

Religion?

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[fishonjazz]

I'm looking forward to swift action by our organization in terms of the investigation of this incident. If that fan said more stuff that substantiates Russ' racist interpretation, then the fan needs to be banned from our arena for a long, long time if not forever. We should have a zero tolerance policy for anything related to stuff like that.

He did say more stuff that substantiates Russ racist interpretation on his social media accounts.

Whether he meant what he said at the game in a racist way or just a homophobic way (just as bad) he is pretty certainly racist. More racist than most of us are no doubt.

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[Carbon13]

I wonder if he’s related to Pittsburgh Steeler and former BYU great Brett Keisel

 

[Carbon13]

I don’t view Utah as racist as much as I view it closed off. People mean well but some of them are absolute IDIOTS

 

[enchilada_style]

I'm not usually one to judge a book by its cover, but from the limited clip I saw of him, the dude portrays himself as a big ol' douche.

Is it that camo hat?

 

[enchilada_style]

I don’t view Utah as racist as much as I view it closed off. People mean well but some of them are absolute IDIOTS

I think this is very accurate. There is a bubble that surrounds many Utahns.

 

[JAZZGASM]

His social media stuff is really bad

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Yeah, they are. Not saying it excuses Westbrook's behavior, but makes it more understandable, expect for threatening the dude's wife if she truly didn't say anything. Either way, that fan should be banned from ESA.

I do think players need to keep emotions in check and watch how they talk around fans. There are a lot of young kids going to games, and the stuff I hear players saying isn't acceptable IMO. I'm not sure how players can talk to refs they way they do either. I hear them put up with a lot (and then give techs for what appear to be rather innocuous statements). A bit baffling.

That said, I have been to a ton of Jazz games near the court, and have never heard any racist comments. As fans, we need to make sure this crap isn't happening. I'm all for heckling players, but there is a right way to do it.

 

[JAZZGASM]

Is it that camo hat?

It's the whole package, including the hat.

 

[fishonjazz]

I wonder if he’s related to Pittsburgh Steeler and former BYU great Brett Keisel

He is.
Another interesting note, I worked with a guy who was also related to Brett keisel who sadly committed suicide

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[fishonjazz]

I don’t view Utah as racist as much as I view it closed off. People mean well but some of them are absolute IDIOTS

I probably fall into that category

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