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framer said:
Probably for Exum depending on how his recovery grades out, but Hill presents age, contract, and redundancy issues with Smart. Smart has been traded twice in a short amount of time. I think he is a good band aid for a struggling team to get competitive but he isn't a long term answer for playoff success, kind of like Carlos Boozer frankly (although Boozer got further than Thomas ever will as a starter.) A fully realized Exum is a strong foundational piece to a contender. He isn't that yet, but he has a chance. Thomas will never be that because he cannot consistently overcome the gameplanning that will occur by really good teams over a seven game series. The deeper he goes, elite teams will punish him when he is on Defense and not allow him to "hide" behind Smart.
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NAOS said:
Who is this Smart that's been traded twice?
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never mind. I see what you're saying. Agreed.
 
NAOS said:
Fine. The truth is that there's nothing reliable about the measurements Cy is using.

As for Parker, has he bulked up? Ever? He's 6', dome skulled, and well under 200 lbs. He's small. He's never been anything like an anchor on defense. And he's been awesome overall. Thomas just isn't as good, but that has less to do with the 3 inches difference between them than other factors.
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You mean 5 inches right? Cuz I know you're not saying that Parker's listed height is exaggerated, but IT's is accurate. If anything, the shorter the player, the bigger the exaggeration is likely to be. IT is probably 5'7" if he stretches out as straight as possible and wears shoes with an extra half inch of rubber on the soles.
 
Here's a pretty good picture of them standing next to each other. Look's to me like Parker is a whole head taller than Thomas.

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DownUnder said:
debate about whether him being a midget is a factor in how good he can be at the top level
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I mean, regardless of his height he was damn good last season. He and Boston as a whole are easier to gameplan against in the playoffs, but as a regular season player he is terrific and I think the Celtics will win a ton of games this year.

Midget or not, I'm still pissed that we didn't trade for him when we had the chance.
 
KqWIN said:
I mean, regardless of his height he was damn good last season. He and Boston as a whole are easier to gameplan against in the playoffs, but as a regular season player he is terrific and I think the Celtics will win a ton of games this year.

Midget or not, I'm still pissed that we didn't trade for him when we had the chance.
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He's a midget and can't take a team close to the ultimate prize. No thanks
 
KqWIN said:
Why are we so obsessed with IT's height right now?
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Boston is ranked one spot ahead of us in these power rankings. Somebody called IT a midget, and then one of the resident trolls said he was an all star and so they were better than us because we don't have any all stars. Then somebody else said small guards can't lead you to a championship, in which several others objected and used Tony Parker as an example. Then I kinda decided just to see how many ways I could think of to make fun of IT's lack of height.

Anyway, **** Boston. Utah Jazz gonna roll dem biznitches!
 
KqWIN said:
I mean, regardless of his height he was damn good last season. He and Boston as a whole are easier to gameplan against in the playoffs, but as a regular season player he is terrific and I think the Celtics will win a ton of games this year.

Midget or not, I'm still pissed that we didn't trade for him when we had the chance.
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Would have been nice to have him instead of Treyd, for sure. However, once you see how good our defense is this year, I doubt you'll be wishing we had Gary Coleman on our team.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Would have been nice to have him instead of Treyd, for sure. However, once you see how good our defense is this year, I doubt you'll be wishing we had Gary Coleman on our team.
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That's the part that pisses me off. Exum had already become the starter, IT was the perfect backup. His contract was great and was available for pennies. Heck, PHX might have taken IT for Burke straight up.

As far as Boston's ranking ahead of us, I've got no problem with it. Like I said, they are a great regular season team. I'd like our chances in a 7 game series, but Stevens knows how win games during the regular season and they play in the easier conference. Horford is also a gigantic upgrade of Sullinger. That is on par with the Hill-Neto upgrade.
 
KqWIN said:
That's the part that pisses me off. Exum had already become the starter, IT was the perfect backup. His contract was great and was available for pennies. Heck, PHX might have taken IT for Burke straight up.

As far as Boston's ranking ahead of us, I've got no problem with it. Like I said, they are a great regular season team. I'd like our chances in a 7 game series, but Stevens knows how win games during the regular season and they play in the easier conference. Horford is also a gigantic upgrade of Sullinger. That is on par with the Hill-Neto upgrade.
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Yeah, Boston is going to be good, and IT is pretty damn good for an Ewok. And I've been more frustrated by how long it took to trade Burke than anything else over the last few years. However, at this point, I'd really rather have Exum/Hill playing both sides of the floor than getting a ton of scoring from the PG spot and settling for a liability on the other end. Even if Treyd had been a lot better on the offensive, I just didn't like the way he fit with the team.

And even though I think Boston is going to be good, I believe we'll be better than them this year. I've watched my share of Jazz teams who were pretty good in the regular season, but really weren't built to go deep in the playoffs. Let Boston have their mini all star. He can watch us on TNT from his fishing boat, while we're playing in the second round.:D
 
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