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I'm at part 2 right now and my favorite part was:
Bill Simmons: I heard that the knicks have that overhead cameras at MSG(Sports VU equipment) and they use these cameras to try to figure out which reporter is talking to which employee to figure out who the moles are.
Jalen Rose: That's just doing way too much.
Bill Simmons: Get a life
Jalen Rose: Just look at the 15 guys in uniforms and 4-5 guys in suits and fix those!

If true, that's like next level Snowden'ing
 
UGLI baby said:
Strength of schedule goes out the window when a team starts dirty tanking and intentionally losing. That's why I have the Jazz where they are. I feel those other teams will tank with abandon while the Jazz add a few wins down the stretch.

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Its not strength of schedule that I am arguing. Its that when a bad team plays a bad team, one of them needs to win.

Here is a list for the # of teams from your list each team will play in the last 1 1/2 months of the season (March/April) (I did not include Memphis games because I don't think they will be anywhere near tank mode at the end of the season)

Bucks-10
Jazz-5
Cleveland-7
Toronto-9
Philadelphia-8
Sacramento-7
Orlando-7

Now these numbers do not include games against Boston, Detroit, Charlotte, Washington and Chicago, who are arguably almost as bad, and therefore winnable games as well. The teams in the East will have many more games against these teams.
 
My tank rank:

1a. Utah
1b. Milwaukee

2. Everyone else.

We only need to worry about Milwaukee, but even then, I am not worried. They are going to get healthy, and then they are going to start playing east teams, which means someone bad has to win. The east teams play like 52 games against each other, so the win totals will definitely be inflated. Milwaukee may have a very strong tank, but they are going to to have the schedule, health and probably pressure to make some trades to get better working against them.

One thing that we consistently underrate as far as the Utah tank is concerned is Mr. DL himself. I feel he is fully committed to tanking, and will do ANYTHING necessary to get the best pick possible. Just on the surface, that means a few things; directing Ty to play Marvin and Jefferson into trade assets, and then probably Brandon Rush as well. While Marvin may actually help the team play better, he will be gone when the schedule gets easy, and tanking really matters. The most comical tank move so far has been the incompetent vets like Lucas, Tinsley and Biedrins.

If the Utah tank really gets in trouble, I think DL might move one or more of our "core 5" assets, probably for a pick or another asset. I see Burks, then Kanter as the most likely to get moved, with Hayward, Burke and Favors becoming more "untouchable" respectively speaking.
 
AKMVP said:
Have you seen Jalen's and Bill's tank ranking? Utah is leading in their opinion. I think Utah and Bucks are in their own league and nobody is close to top 2 - you are really wrong about Raptors for example. Even if they trade Lowry with players like Vasquez, Amir, JV, Hansborough, Patterson and DeRozan they are good enough for 8 spot in the east. Unless they blow it completely there should not be in tank rankings at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfJ_n1c8cG0
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The Jazz talk starts at 11:30. I completely agree with them. We are the best tanking team, and it is a GOOD thing. It will give us a chance at a title. NOTHING ELSE will do that for us.
 
b_line said:
If the Utah tank really gets in trouble, I think DL might move one or more of our "core 5" assets, probably for a pick or another asset. I see Burks, then Kanter as the most likely to get moved, with Hayward, Burke and Favors becoming more "untouchable" respectively speaking.
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I haven't thought of that. BUT, I could see him moving Burks for a pick next year. I think he holds onto Kanter until after the lottery. Kanter could be our "move up" guy. Like #4 and Kanter for #2. Or if we are #3 and #1 wants Wiggins, #2 wants Smart, I could see Lindsey moving Kanter and Smart for Parker.
 
tiered tanking

b_line said:
My tank rank:

1a. Utah
1b. Milwaukee

2. Everyone else.
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Very good post, in my opinion Philly should be in the top tier with Jazz/Bucks (75% chance of being in the mix), second tier are the Magic & Cavs (~50%), and third tier, Bobcats, Celtics, Wizards, Kings, Raptors (~25%).

(I'm loosly defining "in the mix" as having a chance at one of the three worst records during the last 1/4 of the season, and deliberately pursuing it.)
 
silesian said:
Very good post, in my opinion Philly should be in the top tier with Jazz/Bucks (75% chance of being in the mix), second tier are the Magic & Cavs (~50%), and third tier, Bobcats, Celtics, Wizards, Kings, Raptors (~25%).

(I'm loosly defining "in the mix" as having a chance at one of the three worst records during the last 1/4 of the season, and deliberately pursuing it.)
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That makes sense, I could definitely be on board with that. We could also add Utah to the mix of a 12-14 range draft pick with the Golden State pick.
 
Too many people's lists are ignoring that Toronto is very aggressively joining the tank and could easily be in the lead by the All-Star break.
 
default said:
Too many people's lists are ignoring that Toronto is very aggressively joining the tank and could easily be in the lead by the All-Star break.
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We have a 5 game lead on Toronto, with a 7 game lead in the loss column. Toronto is playing for #2 now. Everyone is playing for #2.
 
green said:
We have a 5 game lead on Toronto, with a 7 game lead in the loss column. Toronto is playing for #2 now. Everyone is playing for #2.
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No.

I don't think you have paid close attention to tank races down the stretch of NBA seasons.
 
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