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[Deleted member 848]

really really excited to see Kanter play next season. Probably more-so than any other player.

 

[ema]

Agreed.

Kanter's play and attitude speaks for itself. Same goes for the other players on the team.

I'm not up for word games. I'm just mirroring your attitude.

Speaking of attitudes,

Kanter's attitude > Your attitude

 

[GVC]

I'm not up for word games. I'm just mirroring your attitude.

Speaking of attitudes,

Kanter's attitude > Your attitude

How is that relevant?

What posters on Jazzfanz say about a player beyond their evaluation of his game is equally irrelevant. Unfortunately, no number of excuses can make up for Kanter's poor play this season.

 

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I'm not up for word games. I'm just mirroring your attitude.

Speaking of attitudes,

Kanter's attitude > Your attitude

Dude, this is Dalamon's shtick.

 

[ema]

How is that relevant?

What posters on Jazzfanz say about a player beyond their evaluation of his game is equally irrelevant. Unfortunately, no number of excuses can make up for Kanter's poor play this season.

Who is defending Kanter's poor play, once again?

Tarkanian pointed at a double standard, you misunderstood him and I supported him to clear it. You said that the posters overestimated the players, I said that they over-blamed some of them as well.

You see, it's a dialog. One things lead to another. There was a song like that btw.

Then you wanted an example, I said who cares, go find your example. Then you played a little word game and said "Agreed, Kanter's attitude blah blah". Then I said, Kanter's attitude is better than yours. The guy is a hell of a fun dude.

You see, everything is relevant.

Now for the serious exchange, the biggest liable person for the poor play of Kanter is, himself. But you can not disregard the Corbin Effect. It's much more significant than the Butterfly Effect. Believe me you don't even need to think that hard to be able to see it.

Dude, this is Dalamon's shtick.

I'm his student. I'm proud of Master Dala's shticks

 

[franklin]

Asking for a serious take here, frank.

I'm a fan of Trey and think he'll have a solid career. I want him to be great as much as the next JF, but I can also see he's never going to be a special player. I want to trade him because he's replaceable and because his value is likely never going to be higher than it is right now -- he still has that young potential allure.

There's this weird phenomenon unique to the NBA in that solid veteran players can be had for bargains. If Trey is going to be a Mo or a Devin then I want to sign a comparable Mo or Devin at Mo & Devin rates of a couple mill per.

Trey ain't getting traded tho, and I'll always be a fan in the small chance he is.

 

[GVC]

Who is defending Kanter's poor play, once again?

Tarkanian pointed at a double standard, you misunderstood him and I supported him to clear it. You said that the posters overestimated the players, I said that they over-blamed some of them as well.

You see, it's a dialog. One things lead to another. There was a song like that btw.

Then you wanted an example, I said who cares, go find your example. Then you played a little word game and said "Agreed, Kanter's attitude blah blah". Then I said, Kanter's attitude is better than yours. The guy is a hell of a fun dude.

You see, everything is relevant.

Now for the serious exchange, the biggest liable person for the poor play of Kanter is, himself. But you can not disregard the Corbin Effect. It's much more significant than the Butterfly Effect. Believe me you don't even need to think that hard to be able to see it.

I didn't misunderstand him, I was just stating that I don't think the coach is an excuse for anyone. There were players who played well and improved, there were players who played poorly and regressed. I think it's disingenuous to give credit to the players for improvement while blaming the coach for lack of improvement.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I'm a fan of Trey and think he'll have a solid career. I want him to be great as much as the next JF, but I can also see he's never going to be a special player. I want to trade him because he's replaceable and because his value is likely never going to be higher than it is right now -- he still has that young potential allure.

There's this weird phenomenon unique to the NBA in that solid veteran players can be had for bargains. If Trey is going to be a Mo or a Devin then I want to sign a comparable Mo or Devin at Mo & Devin rates of a couple mill per.

Trey ain't getting traded tho, and I'll always be a fan in the small chance he is.

Undersized joke?

 

[fishonjazz]

How is that relevant?

What posters on Jazzfanz say about a player beyond their evaluation of his game is equally irrelevant. Unfortunately, no number of excuses can make up for Kanter's poor play this season.

I think coaching, system, injuries, teammates, and team goals (tanking) are all relevant.
In other words there is more involved than just what we saw from kanter.... there are factors that effect what we saw from kanter that most likely will be completely different next year.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think it's disingenuous to give credit to the players for improvement while blaming the coach for lack of improvement.

I think both things can happen simultaneously. Maybe corbin was better at understanding how to use and motivate burks and evans than he was with kanter.
im not saying that is the case..... but it is a possibility

 

[GVC]

I think both things can happen simultaneously. Maybe corbin was better at understanding how to use and motivate burks and evans than he was with kanter.
im not saying that is the case..... but it is a possibility

I'd love to see some examples of players whose quality of play was significantly affected by a coaching change.

note: Not sure Jermaine O'Neal is a great example, as he didn't get a real opportunity to play until he left Portland.

 

[fishonjazz]

I'd love to see some examples of players whose quality of play was significantly affected by a coaching change.

note: Not sure Jermaine O'Neal is a great example, as he didn't get a real opportunity to play until he left Portland.

And i would love to see you take your blinders off and get your head out of the sand...... Once you get a thought in your head i have noticed that you refuse to look at any other possibilities than your possibility.

You saw kanter play last season and determined that he is garbage and we should get rid of him. I am open to that being a possibility.

I am also open to the possibility that the kanter we saw last year might be MUCH different from the kanter that we see in the future due to coaching change, scheme changes, a change in his role, a more consistent role, a healthy offseason, better teammates, more maturity, more experience etc etc etc.

Maybe kanter will never be very good. There is a definate chance of that. It would be nice if you would listen just a little bit to your fellow jazzfanz though as well and just consider the fact that you might actually be wrong for the first time in your life.