Preseason conclusions after two games

[Stoked]

Final Roster will be this:

Gobert/Withey/Pleiss
Favors/Booker/Lyles
Hayward/Ingles/Johnson
Burks/Hood/Millsap
Burke/Neto

14 players.

Notes:

Withey will be here for a season or two to allow Pleiss time to adapt and learn to truly see what the Jazz have with him

Burks will take some of the PG minutes and that means no Cotton

I think 3 wing sets (any mixture with 3 of Hayward, Burks, Hood, Ingles and Millsap at the 1-3) will be fairly common. But only rare games will ever be started that way

Neto will replace Burke as starting PG 25 games in. It will have as much to do with giving the 2nd unit scoring as it will a facilitator for the 1st unit.

 

[fishonjazz]

Final Roster will be this:

Gobert/Withey/Pleiss
Favors/Booker/Lyles
Hayward/Ingles/Johnson
Burks/Hood/Millsap
Burke/Neto

14 players.

Notes:

Withey will be here for a season or two to allow Pleiss time to adapt and learn to truly see what the Jazz have with him

Burks will take some of the PG minutes and that means no Cotton

I think 3 wing sets (any mixture with 3 of Hayward, Burks, Hood, Ingles and Millsap at the 1-3) will be fairly common. But only rare games will ever be started that way

Neto will replace Burke as starting PG 25 games in. It will have as much to do with giving the 2nd unit scoring as it will a facilitator for the 1st unit.

I still think cotton makes the team over johnson

Otherwise I agree

Though what you say about the 3 wing lineup taking cotton minutes might be true.

Good call

 

[NAOS]

Final Roster will be this:

Gobert/Withey/Pleiss
Favors/Booker/Lyles
Hayward/Ingles/Johnson
Burks/Hood/Millsap
Burke/Neto

14 players.

Notes:

Withey will be here for a season or two to allow Pleiss time to adapt and learn to truly see what the Jazz have with him

Burks will take some of the PG minutes and that means no Cotton

I think 3 wing sets (any mixture with 3 of Hayward, Burks, Hood, Ingles and Millsap at the 1-3) will be fairly common. But only rare games will ever be started that way

Neto will replace Burke as starting PG 25 games in. It will have as much to do with giving the 2nd unit scoring as it will a facilitator for the 1st unit.

no reason to cut Cotton (or any other non-guaranteed guy) so far before his guaranteed date if we have a 15th spot available.

I do agree Johnson > Cotton.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Why has everyone all the sudden given up on Pleiss? He is way better than I thought he would be.

I like Pleiss. I don't know if people missed him dunking on fools and then swatting the ball away like a badass. Pleiss and Withey is a bit redundant, but other than tipping two balls that were on the rim (which will be a tough habit to break) he has been pretty good. Pleiss looks like a good backup center... were we expecting anything else?

 

[candrew]

I love Neto's energy but his shooting form from deep looks akin to one of those people they select from the crowd who gets a gift certificate to Arby's if they make a 3. He's going to have to improve big time if he's going to make it in The NBA.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

for some reason, Ryan Kelly was getting by a few people last night. That little change of pace thing he's doing from the three-point line (and just beyond). He couldn't really do **** with the ball afterward, though.

I think when you know a guy is a spot up shooter you close out hard... especially if you know/think he can't do anything to hurt you. Also, bigs aren't great at closing out on the perimeter in general. Trey and Booker blow by people regularly... it's what they do after that matters.

 

[sgjazzfan]

Burks needs to play at the PG at times, just so we can have Burks, Hayward and Hood in the game. Whoever the other teams PG is guarding of those 3, give him the ball. Would love to see Burks with a PG on him and both Hayward and Hood to spread the floor.

 

[NAOS]

I think when you know a guy is a spot up shooter you close out hard... especially if you know/think he can't do anything to hurt you. Also, bigs aren't great at closing out on the perimeter in general. Trey and Booker blow by people regularly... it's what they do after that matters.

but it seemed like even the Lakers' broadcast guys were a bit surprised/amused.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I love Neto's energy but his shooting form from deep looks akin to one of those people they select from the crowd who gets a gift certificate to Arby's if they make a 3. He's going to have to improve big time if he's going to make it in The NBA.

He isn't a good shooter... his euro numbers are not great. He is clearly not quite comfortable shooting yet. I want to see him when he settles in a bit. He hit one last night... would like to see him in a catch and shoot situation before I make any judgements.

 

[Stoked]

no reason to cut Cotton (or any other non-guaranteed guy) so far before his guaranteed date if we have a 15th spot available.

I do agree Johnson > Cotton.

I think they do so to maintain flexibility and because they will use the 3 wing line ups you were pushing for. He becomes expendable.

Either way he will be the last man and never see the floor. And I like him. this is not a bash on him at all, just what I think happens after 2 games.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

but it seemed like even the Lakers' broadcast guys were a bit surprised/amused.

He may not have done it much... Those guys are tool bags. I would rather the bigs make guys like Kelly drivers rather than spot up shooters. His layup attempts were comical.

We shouldn't get blown by that hard, but you close out to shooters that can't dribble hard.

Also, Kelly is not a terrible player... he's just easy to make fun of.

 

[NAOS]

I think they do so to maintain flexibility and because they will use the 3 wing line ups you were pushing for. He becomes expendable.

Either way he will be the last man and never see the floor. And I like him. this is not a bash on him at all, just what I think happens after 2 games.

we don't lose flexibility if we keep a 15-man roster and one (or more) guys is un-guaranteed.

I think we carry 15 until the guaranteed date, no question. Maybe longer.