No I haven't. Definitely an assumption. I got no problem calling it that.How do you know? Have you actually asked them?
I want to make a comment about him playing poker with us but can't gather anything meaningful. I find it interesting considering the game, crowd, and what I would consider a typical bishop.
You can say whatever you'd like about him. I know him pretty dang well and can tell you how accurate you are or aren't. I'd be interested to know your thoughts on it.
It's just not something I come to expect out of the typical bishop is all. There's a stigma that goes with poker & being around people drinking is often frowned upon. I grew up in the Utah County Bubble and am more used to LDS folks who would "feel the dark spirit" in GF's basement than I am to the kind who are less uptight about stuff like this. For example, a good chunk of my family won't step a foot on the Las Vegas strip because it feels sinful to them.
As to your father, I wouldn't have anything but good things to say about him. He's the good natured type of person that everyone likes to be around. My comment was directed more toward LDS stereotypes and wasn't really about your father. I could have inserted you or Archie or Conan if he were to ever show up and the point would essentially be the same.
p.s. I hope he busts you reading this at work._
Can I just end this thread with the following true statement, from my mind to my fingertips, into your eyes and mind; and lo, The Trout sayeth:
We will all be snickering and pointing, but in the end, we'll put a hand down and welcome you into the light. (that's how we role, yo)
Definitely some angry dudes in here.
I hate avoidance Christianity. Spiritual growth is supposed to empower you so you can go into the world and set an example. Wasn't there this Jesus guy that kind of thrived on putting himself in those situations? By all accounts, he liked going to parties with riffraff. Probably was even a bit of a jokester to some extent seeing how he was portrayed as well liked in those situations. I know some people that have that whole flee at the first sign of sin or whatever, but that's life. You have to be in different places and situations to set an example. You might not end up with a "The Hangover" type story to tell, but maybe your friend that you go to Vegas with does have the crazy stories and is ****ing up his life in the process, wakes up in the same hotel room as you and sees how easily you got up, grabbed a good breakfast, went to the gym, got a little work in, and transitioned into the next day flawlessly will see that maybe controlled fun is the better route to live life or whatever your trying to get across in any given situation.
Works a hell of a lot better than Fire breathing Christianity.
Definitely good to avoid stuff. I don't think it's a healthy mindset to believe your faith can handle any situation. But I don't think that means live in a bubble either.
I wouldn't feel bad about playing poker with Gameface once every while. If it was all the time I don't think that's healthy. And what if you're playing for pennies. Or thousands?
Tough balance.