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Quin Snyder Agrees to Long-Term Extension

Cunning Linguist said:
The team did not. But there are legitimate reasons why and you are choosing to ignore those.
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Look in the west at the 4 teams who finished above the Jazz. Houston that team has possibly the 2 worst teammates in the NBA in Howard and harden.
Dallas, that roster is garbage and had tons of injuries.
Memphis, those guys can complain about injuries if any team can.
Portland, that roster is no way better then Utahs. Their coach however did amazing this year.
LA Clippers. Griffin and Paul both hurt a bunch this season.
Point is we give Snyder a pass cause of injuries and most teams deal with the same things and all finished above the Jazz.

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nateboz said:
Alec got himself hurt again. That's why I say he regressed. The Jazz were 19-10 with that same roster minus Exum. The Jazz added Mack and Lyles to the roster this year. So the loss of Exum isn't that big of a difference. So yes the Jazz regressed. Favors and Gobert both played down a gear this year.

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Do you think favors and Gobert (along with Exum) were important during that 19-10 run?
 
nateboz said:
Alec got himself hurt again. That's why I say he regressed. The Jazz were 19-10 with that same roster minus Exum. The Jazz added Mack and Lyles to the roster this year. So the loss of Exum isn't that big of a difference. So yes the Jazz regressed. Favors and Gobert both played down a gear this year.

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Would you trade Exum for Mack and Lyles? If so, you're an idiot.
 
fishonjazz said:
Do you think favors and Gobert (along with Exum) were important during that 19-10 run?
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Well yeah they were starters. I just rewatched the okc game after kanter was traded and the Memphis game from 2 seasons ago. That team played much harder then any Jazz team this last season played. The Kanter one was obvious the Memphis one was not. Honestly it's why I'm not sold on Snyder 100% now.

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nateboz said:
Look in the west at the 4 teams who finished above the Jazz. Houston that team has possibly the 2 worst teammates in the NBA in Howard and harden.
Dallas, that roster is garbage and had tons of injuries.
Memphis, those guys can complain about injuries if any team can.
Portland, that roster is no way better then Utahs. Their coach however did amazing this year.
LA Clippers. Griffin and Paul both hurt a bunch this season.
Point is we give Snyder a pass cause of injuries and most teams deal with the same things and all finished above the Jazz.

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Houston: Worst teammates or not, they're extremely talented and were healthy.
Dallas: Matthews played 78 games. Nowitzki played 75 games. Zaza played 76 games. Barea played 74. Deron played 65. Parsons 61. That's 63 missed games by their top six players. Burks missed 51. Exum 82. Hayward 2. Favors 20. Gobert 21. Hood 3. That's 179 missed games (almost three times as many as Dallas) by our top six players.
Memphis: They played well. When healthy. When they weren't, they completely fell apart with a 3-14 finish to the season. Let's not pretend as if they played great through those injuries. And hell, Gasol only missed 30 games, Conley 26 and Randolph 14. Exum himself had 12 more than that.
Portland: Lillard is a stud and Stotts might be a top five coach right now. That doesn't mean Quin sucks or that we underwhelmed.
Clippers: Yeah, Chris Paul missed a whole 8 games. Griffin missed 47. Again, that's just 55 games. Burks himself missed almost more than that. And let's not pretend like the Clips don't have a deep team.


So yeah, I am going to give Quin a pass. He's not above criticism but your examples above sucked.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Houston: Worst teammates or not, they're extremely talented and were healthy.
Dallas: Matthews played 78 games. Nowitzki played 75 games. Zaza played 76 games. Barea played 74. Deron played 65. Parsons 61. That's 63 missed games by their top six players. Burks missed 51. Exum 82. Hayward 2. Favors 20. Gobert 21. Hood 3. That's 179 missed games (almost three times as many as Dallas) by our top six players.
Memphis: They played well. When healthy. When they weren't, they completely fell apart with a 3-14 finish to the season. Let's not pretend as if they played great through those injuries. And hell, Gasol only missed 30 games, Conley 26 and Randolph 14. Exum himself had 12 more than that.
Portland: Lillard is a stud and Stotts might be a top five coach right now. That doesn't mean Quin sucks or that we underwhelmed.
Clippers: Yeah, Chris Paul missed a whole 8 games. Griffin missed 47. Again, that's just 55 games. Burks himself missed almost more than that. And let's not pretend like the Clips don't have a deep team.


So yeah, I am going to give Quin a pass. He's not above criticism but your examples above sucked.
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This.
Great post. Good research

Teams simply don't go through the injury woes that the jazz did to key players and be good teams. I'm willing to bet that every team in the playoffs had less injuries to key players than the jazz.
 
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