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King Cy said:
Well Rudy talks about wanting to be the best player in the NBA, so certain expectations come when you say those kind of things.
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is that why you're still living with your grandma? Shoot low and take zero ****s, amiright?
 
zman1527 said:
Well, we almost beat the best small-ball team out there last night. To me, that was an excellent sign. I have been worried that the Jazz might be making a huge fundamental mistake going Big Ball, but last night showed it can work.

Improve the PG play (Exum!?!?), add a 3 and D guy, get the 3 headed monster Hay/Burks/Hood to mesh better and look out.
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Well to be fair GSW didn't play their small ball lineup. And even if they did, it's not the same as the small ball lineup with Harrison Barnes in it. If we had the same result or better against that lineup, then I'd be more confident in saying that Big Ball can work.
 
str8line said:
Would have liked to have seen this on our last possession.
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The problem is that is what we do now. Take a lot of contested perimeter shots.

Our offense strategy with mostly on ball screens and dribbles sucks. I was so excited when out first two plays against the clips (iirc) was run through the horns (think Spurs) offense and we scored two times in a row. Havent seen it since. If we start running better sets we could be elite.
 
King Cy said:
Well Rudy talks about wanting to be the best player in the NBA, so certain expectations come when you say those kind of things.
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I bet Hayward and Burks also want to be the best player in the nba
 
magic said:
Well to be fair GSW didn't play their small ball lineup. And even if they did, it's not the same as the small ball lineup with Harrison Barnes in it. If we had the same result or better against that lineup, then I'd be more confident in saying that Big Ball can work.
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Good point
 
magic said:
Well to be fair GSW didn't play their small ball lineup. And even if they did, it's not the same as the small ball lineup with Harrison Barnes in it. If we had the same result or better against that lineup, then I'd be more confident in saying that Big Ball can work.
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Harrison Barnes is the key to the whole deal? Did not know that. Also, we are missing Exum. I still think the game clearly showed that Tall Ball can compete with Small Ball.
 
zman1527 said:
Harrison Barnes is the key to the whole deal? Did not know that. Also, we are missing Exum. I still think the game clearly showed that Tall Ball can compete with Small Ball.
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Barnes is a key piece to how they play small ball, yes (strong and big enough to not get bullied by most bigs most of the time, good enough shooter and ballhandler to spread the floor to come out on the net positive side of the [mis] matchup). They can't really do the 5-out/Dray at C lineup without him (which they don't do that often, because that's the ace up their sleeve that they don't always have to use).

No one in the NBA has really had an answer for that lineup. Which is why it's pretty important that Rudy just be able to exploit a hybrid forward (Barnes, Green would probably be guarding Favors as he's the greater threat) guarding him.
 
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I think the key for Rudy is getting stronger and developing a vice grip on the ball. He has decent footwork and some nice up and under moves, but the ball is too easily knocked loose out of his hands, so more times than not it leads to turnover.
 
JAZZGASM said:
I think our overall talent level is close to GS, just in different ways. I love how the GS philosophy is to get 30 assists per game. Thier unselfish play and ball movement is what makes them so difficult to guard. Utah used to do that.
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We don't have the talent that golden state has. And they use a ton more posessions than we do per game, which gives them like 10-15% more chances to assist. 30 assists for them is like 26 assists for us.
 
akirac73 said:
I think the key for Rudy is getting stronger and developing a vice grip on the ball. He has decent footwork and some nice up and under moves, but the ball is too easily knocked loose out of his hands, so more times than not it leads to turnover.
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Yep. And this would help catching passes and passing too.
 
b_line said:
Rudy is becoming an elite passer. That is a huge improvement.
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Disagree. Gobert is below average passer for a starting NBA big. Huge gap to close to the Noah/ Bogut/ Duncan/ Garnett/ Green elite level. His assist % is ~the same: 14.3% last year 13.9% this year.
 
JAZZGASM said:
I think our overall talent level is close to GS, just in different ways.
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And the homer of the year award goes to....

GS talent is elite all-time level. We're on the road to becoming very good, with becoming great a possibility.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Rudy isn't going to become noticeably stronger anytime soon, maybe ever.
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Do you think he is going to stop his offseason strength programs, or do you they will stop effectively adding muscle to his frame? His strength is clearly increasing each year, not sure why we think it would plateau at this age, especially with his passion to improve.
 
Has there been a team that played the Dubs better than we did? Toronto is getting mauled right now
 
b_line said:
We don't have the talent that golden state has. And they use a ton more posessions than we do per game, which gives them like 10-15% more chances to assist. 30 assists for them is like 26 assists for us.
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Completely disagree. We don't have that one superstar but Hayward Gobert and Favors are very damned talented then add Burks and Hood who can ball as well. We just don't have a steph curry is all. Don't sell the Jazz short.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Completely disagree. We don't have that one superstar but Hayward Gobert and Favors are very damned talented then add Burks and Hood who can ball as well. We just don't have a steph curry is all. Don't sell the Jazz short.
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And Exum when he comes back I think will prove some people wrong.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Completely disagree. We don't have that one superstar but Hayward Gobert and Favors are very damned talented then add Burks and Hood who can ball as well. We just don't have a steph curry is all. Don't sell the Jazz short.
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Not selling the jazz short, but saying we have the same talent as them is pretty absurd. The warriors might be the best team in history, and Steph Curry is just one player.

We have some good players, but we need a better bench and we need Exum to be a superstar one day.

I do agree that Favors, Hayward and Gobert are awesome. They are better than any of the GSW players outside of Curry and Draymond Green. But GSW have sooooooo many good players, while the Jazz basically have 4 good players on their team, and 2 other rotation players.

Also, the way Golden States talent fits together is amazing. They just work, and they are shocking the league.
 
b_line said:
I am on the Exum bandwagon. I think that kid is going to be great. If he is not, we will be good, but will have to look elsewhere to find superstar talent.
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I have never wanted to be wrong about a player more than I want to be wrong about exum.

**** it, I'm on the exum will be awesome bandwagon too. He was fantastic when I saw him in summer league this year. His size, speed, and age all bode well. A stud on defense. I even love those exum shoes someone posted about recently
 
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