Thee Jazz Fan
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Didn’t we trade Girichek for Korver in the DWill Boozer years? That was a good trade.
Ranking the Clarkson trade
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Jack Strop
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I'd have to list DWill twice. Getting him in originally was a KOC gem. There was an acknowledged drop-off after DWill/Paul in draft talent. Jazz seemed to be positioned perfectly to get their choice of PG's...until they were jumped twice in the lottery. Being able to trade up was pivotal. Otherwise, the next best PG prospect was Felton. Absolute thievery of Portland, especially since Utah got who they had promised to select at #27 in the 2nd round anyway, CJ Miles - evidenced by Miller giving him a guaranteed deal and the equivalent money of a 1st round pick.
As for getting Favors and other assets, including Harris, it was a huge win. It was reported the Jazz tried to get a verbal promise out of Williams and his agent in multiple meetings that he'd sign for the max. Reportedly, he/his agent said he wanted to become a FA. Nothing was stated that he'd 100% leave, but there was no commitment to stay, either. Jazz did great in that trade. It was DL's bungling of picks and free agency, and the Sloan debacle, that then was unable to build on the team afterwards and resulted in an eventual rebuild.
IIRC, Williams was battling a sore wrist at the time of the trade, although he passed a physical. Jazz had hit a rough patch of games right before Sloan re-signed. And if you believe it or not, his resignation, at least in part, was reportedly due to him losing control of his PG and not having the support of management to discipline Williams. I doubt Deron would have stayed. And in hindsight, even had he remained healthy, the team was going nowhere under Ty.
So two big wins with Deron's name on them, IMO. First to draft him, second to get rid of him.
Jack Strop
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As for Clarkson, definitely a "win now" move, especially if Clarkson leaves as a FA. But Jazz essentially got their backup PG replacement in Mudiay for nothing. Not the defensive player Exum is/was, but Exum has been horrible offensively, even before he got injured. He just can't shoot. Hitting 30% on 3's is virtually unplayable as a guard in the NBA. Cleveland is viewing this as a salary dump, which is why they demanded two 2nd's.
Clarkson has been a huge part of the last two wins. Jazz drop the Clippers game without him. And he helped carry Utah against Detroit until the 4th quarter run put them away.
Clarkson has been a huge part of the last two wins. Jazz drop the Clippers game without him. And he helped carry Utah against Detroit until the 4th quarter run put them away.
The D-Will trade was trash.
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Great post. We thought we were deep earlier this season but I think you're right.
Isaiah 1:13
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Definitely a coup of a trade that filled an immediate need. Most of our other coups involved some development such as Gobert and Mitchell and D.Faves. Hornacek is the only other one that comes to mind, course that one did involve Jeff Malone AND a first round pick, but Horny stretched the floor for us and brought a presence. People may argue that Korver filled that kind of need maybe particularly the first time (we overpaid the second), but I don't think his impact was as immediate.