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I dont think so. Pretty sure there has been more Championship parity in MLB than there has been in NBA.

Two completely different games. You arguing that this system resulted in parity in MLB is as meaningful as me saying that the NBA should exactly mirror the NFL model because of the parity that exists there.

The real solution would be to leave the salary cap and luxury taxes in place and remove limits on player contracts. Say the cap is at 100 Mil. LeBron would fetch about $60 Mil in that scenario. All the top tier guys would command something insane and you wouldn't have as many top 20 players on the same team.
 
I think the Yankees have won WAY more championships than any other team in mlb.

Also in mlb it seems that one player probably doesn't effect the game as much as one player does in bball
 
Kewl, who gives a **** about European soccer? I don't know their cap stuff and junk. We are talking about 'Murican sports, not bitch ball.
Kewl about mlb not having a cap.

Who cares about mlb? We are talking about basketball here right?

Is there a market as small as slc in mlb anyway? Does slc or Utah have a major league baseball team?
 
Hockey and Basketball are both Canadian sports btw.

Basketball was invented in America. That's why people come here. To do cool stuff.

Hockey was invented in England.

Canada doesn't invent stuff, deal with it. :)
 
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Two completely different games. You arguing that this system resulted in parity in MLB is as meaningful as me saying that the NBA should exactly mirror the NFL model because of the parity that exists there.

The real solution would be to leave the salary cap and luxury taxes in place and remove limits on player contracts. Say the cap is at 100 Mil. LeBron would fetch about $60 Mil in that scenario. All the top tier guys would command something insane and you wouldn't have as many top 20 players on the same team.

Not a bad idea. I actually think that the players most overpaid in the NBA are the "middle-tier" players. They don't move the needle much but still can make 10-15 mil a year.
 
I don't know what the solution is, but with the expected upcoming cap increase, I believe that there will be even less parity in basketball (which there is already very little of). In a sport in which a single player can have a bigger impact on the game, there may not be a solution. With stars teaming up in big-markets, it leaves small-market franchises on the outside looking in. The only way a small-market team can combat this is by doing what Utah (& MIN/PHI/etc) is attempting to do (& GSW/OKC did), which is acquire as much talent as possible via the draft & retain it as long as possible. MLB adapted a competitive balance system in which (if I'm not mistaken) teams are allotted extra draft picks based on market size. Obviously this exact method isn't applicable to the NBA, but hopefully there is a solution to what is clearly a problem.

Again, I'm not sure if there is a viable solution, but when a team that can't attract high-level FA's has to decide between losing it's most talented players without receiving any compensation in return or overpaying in order to retain them, they are put in a lose-lose situation. Maybe there can be a system similar to MLB FA where there are type A & B FA's in which the signing team is forced to compensate the other team with draft picks. There probably isn't a realistic solution though, & small-market teams will likely always have to be conscientious of how they handle their most valuable players (look at the different situations DEN & UTA are in due to how they handled their unlikely to re-sign star players in Melo & D-Will). Luckily for us, despite being a small-market franchise, we are in a better situation than most big-market franchises are due to smart drafting, resource allocation, & asset management.
 
Kewl about mlb not having a cap.

Who cares about mlb? We are taking about basketball here right?

Is there a market as small as slc in mlb anyway? Does slc or Utah have a baseball team?

An American market is closer comparison than European soccer. The rules of FA and such are at least similar in NBA and MLB. Much better comp than European soccer.
 
Two completely different games. You arguing that this system resulted in parity in MLB is as meaningful as me saying that the NBA should exactly mirror the NFL model because of the parity that exists there.

The real solution would be to leave the salary cap and luxury taxes in place and remove limits on player contracts. Say the cap is at 100 Mil. LeBron would fetch about $60 Mil in that scenario. All the top tier guys would command something insane and you wouldn't have as many top 20 players on the same team.

If the owners could get the NFL system, they would.
 
OK. Makes sense. But Hayward is not eligible for the full max until he has been in the league ten years so it won't be 30 million a year, probably more like 25 mil, and the cap will be over 100 mil.
Yes, you are correct in that a max contract for 10-yr players is more. But that amount is 35%. At 7 years Hayward is eligible for a 30% contract. I estimated the cap will be in the $100M range. So $30m/per...give or take. And yes, I also realize max contracts are also calculated against BRI, which is generally a little less than the cap.
 
An American market is closer comparison than European soccer. The rules of FA and such are at least similar in NBA and MLB. Much better comp than European soccer.
Nfl is an American market too right?
 
Basketball was invented in America. That's why people come here. To do cool stuff.

Hockey was invented in England.

Canada doesn't invent stuff, deal with it. :)
Hockey invented in England? Maybe stick ball. It's not hockey without ice, and I doubt there has ever even been an iced over pond in England. The Brits don't even put ice in their drinks.

James Naismith was Canadian but he invented the game in America because it is well known that brain cells work better down here, so yes, it is an American game.
 
Hockey and Basketball are both Canadian sports btw.

Basketball was invented in the U.S. The inventor (Naismith) was born & raised in Canada, true, but he was living in Springfield, Massachusetts when he invented and popularized basketball. So I don't think you can call it a Canadian sport.
 
No salary cap = rich clubs inevitably dominating = same top 4 or 5 teams EVERY year = boring boring boring

Anyone who thinks this isn't the case is simply an imbecile
 
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