Real-time NBA Draft !!

[Hekate]

People were freaking out about Jazz trading down in the second round, not even fully giving up a pick. You can cherry pick a few players that worked out, but all I said that the success rate of second rounders is low. Yes, over the years the Jazz have had about a dozen guys from the second round contribute. In the last 30 years, they have had 5 or 6 good picks, which is probably a much better success rate than average.

I never said that second rounders won't be good, I said the success rate is really low. Getting money to move down 13 picks really isn't a big deal. Chances are Jazz may have picked the same 3 guys anyway.

It was more like goddammit Jazz draft already, It as has been like ages kind of bitching than freaking out.

 

[green]

You often have some good points but you are dead wrong here. You have been since you first said this and it hasn't changed. Terribly wrong.

Now I want to bring in a wing as well but a back up SF. Hood is fantastic and you sell him way, way to short.

It's ok. Here at Jazzfanz we fall in love with our mediocre wings. I said it about Brewer. I was told how wrong I was. I said Burks was nothing more than a good sixth man. I was told I was wrong.

Hood is good enough to start. BUT, he's a player that if you can upgrade you should. He's an average starter. He won't lead you anywhere. He's a role player. If you can upgrade that, you do it. Hood is a 20-25 mins a night guy.

 

[fishonjazz]

Aren't Hayward and Hood our starting wings?


Plus when we re-sign Hill and Exum is ready, Hill is also a starting SG material.


Then there's Burks also.


IMO there's plenty of wings...

I'm with ya one love

 

[Stoked]

It's ok. Here at Jazzfanz we fall in love with our mediocre wings. I said it about Brewer. I was told how wrong I was. I said Burks was nothing more than a good sixth man. I was told I was wrong.

Hood is good enough to start. BUT, he's a player that if you can upgrade you should. He's an average starter. He won't lead you anywhere. He's a role player. If you can upgrade that, you do it. Hood is a 20-25 mins a night guy.

I agree with that, did back then and so did several others. Let's not act like you were alone.

As for Hood, I'm not saying he is a #1 option but you sell him short. Thankfully he is young and will prove which one of us is right.

As for improving the roster. If you can upgrade any position on the team you should. That goes for every sports team at every position. I just think he should not be the area of greatest focus for this team.

Edit: I should say I see Burks as a 6th man due to his slashing ability and the team make up. Not that he is not capable of starting. Just that on this team he helps us most as the 6th man.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It's ok. Here at Jazzfanz we fall in love with our mediocre wings. I said it about Brewer. I was told how wrong I was. I said Burks was nothing more than a good sixth man. I was told I was wrong.

Hood is good enough to start. BUT, he's a player that if you can upgrade you should. He's an average starter. He won't lead you anywhere. He's a role player. If you can upgrade that, you do it. Hood is a 20-25 mins a night guy.

Burks has been injured for most of the past 2 years and Hood just finished his 2nd year. You are a complete idiot to draw conclusions on either player (especially Hood who has proven he is a starter and a good one at that).

 

[sgjazzfan]

It was more like goddammit Jazz draft already, It as has been like ages kind of bitching than freaking out.

Fair enough, but I think people really need to get their expectations down about second round picks, especially in a weak draft class. You can't hope for someone that is going to make an impact soon, or possibly ever.Just be pleasantly surprised if they do. Once the Jazz traded their first, then the team for this year was pretty much set.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Should have tried harder. Still think the Jazz had the assets to work with if they'd have kicked some cash and future 2nd round picks into the deal. Give me #25 and #26. Jazz walk away with Furkan Korkmaz and Skal Labissiere. Plus getting Hill. That's a helluva draft.

Then I take those two and make them live at P3 in the summer and play for the SLC Stars. Their entire rookie season is entirely focused on their development. I'm happy with Bolomboy, but selling #42 instead of taking Zhou Qi was a short-sighted move IMO.

How many players do you think they're allowed to carry on their roster?

 

[green]

Burks has been injured for most of the past 2 years and Hood just finished his 2nd year. You are a complete idiot to draw conclusions on either player (especially Hood who has proven he is a starter and a good one at that).

Yup.

 

[green]

Hood, per game, his first two years:

8 pts to 14.5 pts
41% FG to 42%
37% 3pt% to 36
2 rebs to 3 rebs
2 assists to 3 assists
1 TO to 2 TO's.

Per 36 mins:
15 pts to 16
3 ft attempts to 3 ft attempts
4 rebs to 4 rebs
3 assists to 3 assists
1.5 To's to 2

Other than getting more minutes last year, where did he improve? He was the same player he was a rookie (which isn't a bad thing). He just was given more minutes.

Advanced stats
12 to 14 PER
.529 to .542 TS%
6 to 6 trb%
13 to 14 ast%
1.5 to 1.5 stl%

He is a solid player. A very good NBA player. But one that you should be looking to upgrade. He won't be a superstar. He won't lead any team anywhere. He won't ever be as good as Gordon Hayward or Derrick Favors. I like Hood. BUT, if we want to get to 50+ wins, we need someone better than him starting at a wing position.

Let's compare him to a couple of players:

Rudy Gay to Batum to Dudley to Korver to Hood
17 pts to 15 to 8 to 9 to 14
46% fg% to 43% to 48% to 44% to 42
36% 3pt% to 35% to 42% to 43% to 36%
7 rebs to 6 to 4 to 3 to 3
2 assists to 6 to 2 to 2 to 3
16 PER to 16 to 12 to 10 to 14
.538 TS% to .545 to .602 to .578 to .542

What's my point in all this? Hood is very average. He isn't going to take the world by storm and become an all star. If you can upgrade him, you do it.

The only time Kobe's PER was as low as Hood's was this year.
Durrant's PER is consistently 10 pts higher.
Leonard's PER has never been as low as Hood's...and was over ten points higher this year.
Harden's PER is over 10 pts higher...and his TS% is consistently 0.1 higher as well.
LeBron has had his PER over 15 pts higher.
Paul George's PER went 13, 16, 17, 20. So, I guess there is hope that Hood could follow his path. BUT, George does a lot of things a lot better than Hood. A lot of things.
Carmelo has never had a PER as low as Hood's best year.

Those are all the all star G/F from last year. Now tell me about how Hood has a shot to be an all star again.

There is ONE player who Hood could follow a similar path, and that is Jimmy Butler. But scroll down on the main page and you'll find a thread started by me with me being ripped on for how over-rated Butler is.

Look at Hood in his first year with big mins (>30)vs Butler:

14 pts vs 13
42% FG vs 40
36% 3PT vs 28
3 rebs vs 5
3 assists vs 3
14 PER vs 14
.542 TS% vs .522

Very similar players.

 

[green]

tl/dr:

Hood is a very average player and the only all star that is similar to him is Butler, and Hood doesn't play for a big market team to get an All Star nod.

 

[Coach Ellis]

How many players do you think they're allowed to carry on their roster?

15. Same as always. Part with Booker, Burke, Johnson and Pleiss and you're already there.

Exum - Hill - Mack - Neto
Hood - Burks - Korkmaz
Hayward - Jingles
Favors - Lyles - Labissiere
Gobert - Withey - Qi

Rotate Korkmaz, Labissiere, Neto and Qi with the SLC Stars so they're getting good practice time in as well as playing time in the D-League.

If you decide that you still want to get a free agent, you have up to Max space and can part ways with either Mack or Withey pretty easily. Solid playoff rotation for now and developmental guys in the works to develop.

 

[Gameface]

tl/dr:

Hood is a very average player and the only all star that is similar to him is Butler, and Hood doesn't play for a big market team to get an All Star nod.

Honest question. If all other things remain the same is a player better because they get selected to the All Star team?