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[green]

Honest question. If all other things remain the same is a player better because they get selected to the All Star team?

In the case of every all star chosen last Feb, outside of Butler, a resounding yes.

Here is my point:

Hood is a very, very nice player. He is a solid starter. If you can upgrade him and move him to the bench, you do it. If you can't, it's ok because he is an average starter.

Expecting him to become some great player is foolish. There's nothing that suggests this other than homerism. He is a solid starter. He will play 8-10 years, start some, come off the bench in some. He will make a boat-load of money. I'd love to be in his position.

 

[Gameface]

In the case of every all star chosen last Feb, outside of Butler, a resounding yes.

Here is my point:

Hood is a very, very nice player. He is a solid starter. If you can upgrade him and move him to the bench, you do it. If you can't, it's ok because he is an average starter.

Expecting him to become some great player is foolish. There's nothing that suggests this other than homerism. He is a solid starter. He will play 8-10 years, start some, come off the bench in some. He will make a boat-load of money. I'd love to be in his position.

I don't think you understood my question.

If player A has stats X...

Is player A a better player if they get chosen for the all star game even if stats remain X?

You talk about it like getting picked for the all star game makes players better in and of itself.

 

[Coach Ellis]

In the case of every all star chosen last Feb, outside of Butler, a resounding yes.

Here is my point:

Hood is a very, very nice player. He is a solid starter. If you can upgrade him and move him to the bench, you do it. If you can't, it's ok because he is an average starter.

Expecting him to become some great player is foolish. There's nothing that suggests this other than homerism. He is a solid starter. He will play 8-10 years, start some, come off the bench in some. He will make a boat-load of money. I'd love to be in his position.

I think I have a higher opinion of Hood than you, but this is essentially my position on things. Build from the top down and push talent to the bench. It's the main reason I'd like them to chase DeMar DeRozan. He's better than Hood and Burks. He makes the starting unit better AND pushing them both to the bench makes the reserves better in turn. Plus, I think he's young enough and has a good enough BBIQ and work ethic to continue improving under Snyder.

 

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I don't think you understood my question.

If player A has stats X...

Is player A a better player if they get chosen for the all star game even if stats remain X?

You talk about it like getting picked for the all star game makes players better in and of itself.

Then, no, making an all star game doesn't make you a great player. BUT, the only all star Hood is even in the same stratosphere is Butler. Every other G/F has never had a season as bad as Hood's best year.

So, does being an all star make you great? Nope.

BUT, most all stars are chosen because they are really, really good. There are a few exceptions, say Jimmy Butler who played for a large market team and was ok, but they are not the norm. Usually, if you are an all star, you are really, really good.

So, being an All Star is a pretty safe bet that you provide a service to the NBA that goes above and beyond your average NBA player.

Hood doesn't provide that service. He is a solid player. Nothing more, nothing less.

Heck, if I had to choose between Hood at 20 million per year and Gordon at 30+ per year...I take Hayward 100 times out of 100. I can easily replace Hood. And probably for a lot less than 20 million per year. I can't replace Hayward as easily. Hayward has been our PG since Harris left. He has played as well as he has with no help around him.

 

[silesian]

We own a D-league team tho

Predicted roster will be these 11: Exum, Hood, Hayward, Favors, Gobert, Hill, Burks, Ingles, Lyles, Neto (or Mack), new shooting 4/5.

This leaves 4 slots "up in the air" and possibility that the Jazz fill with 2/3 second rounders on minimum contracts, with team options for years 2,3. They play for the Stars for most of the year.

 

[RandyForRubio]

I wouldn't say that Hood will ever be an all-star, but according to RPM, he was a top 15 SG in the league. That's not bad for a 2nd year player. If we can improve him, yeah, go for it...but it won't be easy.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Predicted roster will be these 11: Exum, Hood, Hayward, Favors, Gobert, Hill, Burks, Ingles, Lyles, Neto (or Mack), new shooting 4/5.

This leaves 4 slots "up in the air" and possibility that the Jazz fill with 2/3 second rounders on minimum contracts, with team options for years 2,3. They play for the Stars for most of the year.

Have to think that they're going to keep Neto, Mack, Withey, Pleiss and Bolomboy this year due to favorable contracts.

Gobert, Favors, Lyles, Hayward, Hood, Burks, Exum and Hill is your core group - that's 8. Factor them keeping Jingles, Mack, Neto, Withey, Bolomboy and Pleiss. That's 14. One spot left for a free agent. No reason why Bolomboy and/or Neto shouldn't play for the Stars this year. Get them practice time with the Jazz and playing time with the Stars.

Still hoping the Jazz shoot for the moon and chase DeRozan. I think that would be the best move for them over the summer. If a veteran wing wants to come here to be a mentor, he should do it at a reasonable cost and they can easily move on from any of Withey, Pleiss or Mack. I'm pretty sure all 3 are gone next year anyways.

 

[silesian]

Then, no, making an all star game doesn't make you a great player. BUT, the only all star Hood is even in the same stratosphere is Butler. Every other G/F hasnever had a season as bad as Hood's best year.

Dubious. Kyle Lowry did not score >10 ppg until his fifth season. Draymond averaged 3 and 6 PPG his first 2 seasons. Rodney was better than Kobe last year. And I'd take last year's Hood over rookie Isaiah and early years of Millsap.

 

[silesian]

Factor them keeping Jingles, Mack, Neto, Withey, Bolomboy and Pleiss.

Jingles yes. Mack and Neto -- no way both stay. My money is on Neto since his contract is guaranteed and he should be a fine third stringer. Pleiss -- maybe. Withey -- maybe.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Should have tried harder. Still think the Jazz had the assets to work with if they'd have kicked some cash and future 2nd round picks into the deal. Give me #25 and #26. Jazz walk away with Furkan Korkmaz and Skal Labissiere. Plus getting Hill. That's a helluva draft.

Then I take those two and make them live at P3 in the summer and play for the SLC Stars. Their entire rookie season is entirely focused on their development. I'm happy with Bolomboy, but selling #42 instead of taking Zhou Qi was a short-sighted move IMO.

Lol. U make it sound so easy. Would u have given up your 25th pick for second rounders and cash? How do u know they didn't offer that. Fact is most of the assets they have are more valuable then a late first


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[Doublea]

Smh at people wanting to get DeRozen. Did you guys watch him in the playoffs this year? He's way to inefficient of a player who thinks he's a number 1 option.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

15. Same as always. Part with Booker, Burke, Johnson and Pleiss and you're already there.

Exum - Hill - Mack - Neto
Hood - Burks - Korkmaz
Hayward - Jingles
Favors - Lyles - Labissiere
Gobert - Withey - Qi

Rotate Korkmaz, Labissiere, Neto and Qi with the SLC Stars so they're getting good practice time in as well as playing time in the D-League.

If you decide that you still want to get a free agent, you have up to Max space and can part ways with either Mack or Withey pretty easily. Solid playoff rotation for now and developmental guys in the works to develop.

I think the Jazz should keep Pleiss, Withey and Mack at least long enough to trade them for an asset. I think they need to add at least one, and probably two, free agents. That's why I see fewer open slots on this team than you apparently do. If we had bought multiple first round picks we'd start running out of slots quickly.