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RealGM reports Jazz interested in Trading for John Collins

Let’s just end this pathetic trade thread now. I would not trade JC or Beasley straightforward for him let alone a first as well, I wouldn’t even trade KO for him. He’s making 26 million a year to put up pedestrian numbers for a guy who hasn’t come close to making an allstar game. Are we doing this just to make any old trade. Let’s make ATL sleep in the bed they made. For god sakes let’s not make this mistake, let someone else do it.
 
Like if you put JC in the JV role could that work? It's be much better spacing.

The thing is tho the way Collins plays should be super productive with those kind of guards.


Maybe he'd be a better in a ball movement system with more playmaking touches, but he has never really done that. It'd be interesting to see what a trio of Collins, Lauri, and KO could do. Having a player with Collins offensive talent in JVs slot could be lethal.
Im talking about what its like mentally playing with Trae. I couldnt.
 
Like if you put JC in the JV role could that work? It's be much better spacing.
Oh and about that JC vs JV.. Im not sure... I see JC more of an option over KO that brings additional pressure to paint as well as the outside pressure once he gets his stroke back.

We lose KO passing and hustle, but we gain more paint pressure, rebounds and blocks.

We need JV for the energy role in that case.

Im still not sold on JC though, as he has been rough and inconsistent this year.
 
Oh and about that JC vs JV.. Im not sure... I see JC more of an option over KO that brings additional pressure to paint as well as the outside pressure once he gets his stroke back.

We lose KO passing and hustle, but we gain more paint pressure, rebounds and blocks.

We need JV for the energy role in that case.

Im still not sold on JC though, as he has been rough and inconsistent this year.
If JC is tired of playing with Tre he probably wants more diversified touches. He'd be in that 3/4/5 role where basically all of them are interchangeable and do a bit of everything. JC has the potential to be a higher energy/effort player. He has always gotten good block and rebound numbers. I know his defensive rep is not great, but I havent seem enough to say how bad it is.
 
If JC is tired of playing with Tre he probably wants more diversified touches. He'd be in that 3/4/5 role where basically all of them are interchangeable and do a bit of everything. JC has the potential to be a higher energy/effort player. He has always gotten good block and rebound numbers. I know his defensive rep is not great, but I havent seem enough to say how bad it is.
Yeah thats a good point. He is more versatile and more interchangable which allows us to give Kessler more minutes and rotate our bigs easier (KO + Kessler is a combo I dont like against teams with fast wings).

I havent seen him enough this year to judge his current for or defense much outside of his numbers.
 
Beasley is still super young….totally agree here. He is and should be viewed as a very strong plus asset
I would not be surprised if he led the league in 3 point shooting at some point. His shot is so deadly. Hope he can find his way into the 3 point competition at the all star game this season.
 
Like if you put JC in the JV role could that work? It's be much better spacing.

The thing is tho the way Collins plays should be super productive with those kind of guards.


Maybe he'd be a better in a ball movement system with more playmaking touches, but he has never really done that. It'd be interesting to see what a trio of Collins, Lauri, and KO could do. Having a player with Collins offensive talent in JVs slot could be lethal.
Guys that are that ball dominant I think are counterproductive at times. I think his production, motivation, and such could perk up in our system. I think there is value to having guys touch the ball even if they aren’t shooting it and using a possession. That said he makes 100M over 4 years, has durability issues and I’m not sure how well it would work.

I wish we could try it before we buy it… can we rent him for a few weeks?
 
I would not be surprised if he led the league in 3 point shooting at some point. His shot is so deadly. Hope he can find his way into the 3 point competition at the all star game this season.
He’d never win the three point competition because he’d shimmy and talk **** after every make. Wouldn’t get through the first rack.
 
Atl just isn’t for him. Not gonna lie, I’ve always wanted to see Collins in a jazz uni. Doesn’t look sexy but don’t knock it.. atl would probably want a lot even though he’s under performing there.
You’d have to really think you can unlock some missed potential though. He’s having a trash season and you’d be signing up for 3.5 years at $25m.
That can look like a deal with all the new money coming soon. Still think atl isn’t for him. There’s still some levels to unlock
 
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