I know this is true of certain LDS converts that were previously Baptist and have lost a child. Baptists teach that until a person can accept Jesus they are going to burn in hell. The belief that your 6 month old baby which died of sids is going straight to hell to burn for eternity simply because they died before they could accept Christ into their life is a driving force to convert to Mormonism which teaches that unitl at least the age of 8 all children go straight to heaven and God's presence.
Reasons you left the LDS church.
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I know this is true of certain LDS converts that were previously Baptist and have lost a child. Baptists teach that until a person can accept Jesus they are going to burn in hell. The belief that your 6 month old baby which died of sids is going straight to hell to burn for eternity simply because they died before they could accept Christ into their life is a driving force to convert to Mormonism which teaches that unitl at least the age of 8 all children go straight to heaven and God's presence.
GVC
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I guess the fail-safe in CONANBOT ENGAGEMENT PROTOCOL when scarecrow fails is to go ad hominem. Keep that up.
Fixed. Swears are hard, so I'll help.
And I stand by that, I thought I should maybe post that publicly, but I'm trying not to post too much in this thread.
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or you could be a Catholic and be happy with Limbo
though I guess they've changed their minds and limbo's been sent to, well limbo!
"Limbo is not unpleasant, but it's not a seat alongside God"
https://articles.latimes.com/2007/apr/21/world/fg-limbo21
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Craig K. Manscill
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Being a member of the church has made me a very happy person and it's given me a lot in my life (obviously). My beautiful wife, kids, callings, work, and above all, enlightenment. I'm sure you can get happiness in many places, but I think that if everyone were to truly accept the church, they'd notice the positive change it makes. But I respect others who do not believe it and wish them the best.
I'd also want to mention, after reading this thread, that Conan is not a representative of our church at all, he is pretty much the opposite, and I wish he would stop slandering it with the childish way he acts. I don't know how old he is but that needs to stop, it's insulting.
- Craig
I'd also want to mention, after reading this thread, that Conan is not a representative of our church at all, he is pretty much the opposite, and I wish he would stop slandering it with the childish way he acts. I don't know how old he is but that needs to stop, it's insulting.
- Craig
That's really beautiful.
Gyp Rosetti
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I ask this in all seriousness, not why people leave but why they join? Has anyone here joined despite not being raised in some way LDS or getting married to someone who is? But I digress, why join? I'm curious if anyone here could sell me on why I should join? Not that I'm seriously considering it. I'm just curious what the selling points really are.
GVC
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Being part of a loving, supportive, family-oriented community is probably the biggest selling point, I'd think.
You'd have to give up porn though, so...
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This is a very interesting discussion, imo. However, for me, I became far less active after my battle with cancer, and almost left it entirely; except for my wife and kids I probably would have. I dealt with PTSD from the treatments that haunted me for the better part of a decade, and I couldn't understand why I never felt like I had before. I have come to accept that I am fundamentally a different person now, and with the help of meds and therapy the PTSD is under control, but I was mad at everything and everyone for a long time, and very critical of the church and, I guess, God. Within the past few years I have felt myself drawn to rebuild my religious beliefs, for whatever reason, but I am not fully "back" at all. Not sure if I ever will be. Not sure if I ever want to be.
These are exactly the kinds of things I was talking about when I stated that I felt a lot of the rules are man-made. A lot are products of the culture. Some are from God, but shaped into whatever the agenda calls for.
The Word of Wisdom actually states that it is not sent by commandment or constraint. And, that all meat (the flesh of beasts and fowl) is to be used sparingly, in times of cold and famine (meaning, I assume, when vegetation is unavailable.) So I've always kinda wondered why church members are balls-out about certain parts of the WoW, and luke warm (or completely apathetic) on others.