Reggie Jackson vs Brandon Knight

[Twin Towers]

The ACC is rated ahead of the SEC
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It is top heavy but the differences aren't significant. Jackson had a terrible supporting cast so I consider his assists pretty decent. Of course the age difference favors Knight but its not clear cut to me Knight will be a better pro.

Exactly. But also Knight is not that much younger than Jackson. Jackson just barely turned 21 two months ago.

 

[Jazz4ever]

People advocating a Millsap trade are wasting everyones time and don't know our management very well. They ended up paying millions in luxury tax to keep him. They probably value him equal to Favors and more than Hayward.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Exactly. But also Knight is not that much younger than Jackson. Jackson just barely turned 21 two months ago.

I agree, are you saying Jackson would be worthy of a #12 pick though? Outside of that not sure how he even fits into the argument.

 

[Brown Notes]

I would take Jackson over Motie or Klay Thompson.

 

[Twin Towers]

He gets better every year. Great, great work ethic.
He plays as hard or harder than anybody on the court every night.
He has shown clutch ability.
Showed a willingness to learn a new position.
Toughness/ Durability.

He got better in a lot of areas. Rebounding went down dramatically
And he said this off-season he is a PF and does not want to play SF.
Durability is actually not good. Does he play a lot of games. yes but does he get injured every year and does his production drop dramatically? BIG YES It has happened every year he got big minutes.

He only averaged 7 rebounds per game last year in 34 minutes. So rebounding was his strong suit now its a weakness. Guys reach over him all the time and tip it to themselves. Millsap and Jefferson both have a boxing out problem and that is why we let so many teams get offensive rebounds. Jefferson I thought did a better job than Millsap boxing out and rebounding than Millsap did. We lost some very close and important games because we gave up so many offensive rebounds.
I don't care how hard someone plays or how tough they are or how great there work ethic is if they aren't getting the job done and we keep losing to the elite teams every year. If we want to stay mediocre than keep players like Millsap at the 4. But if we want to be elite like the top teams we should do what they are doing and get size like EVERY single one of the top teams have.

 

[Twin Towers]

I agree, are you saying Jackson would be worthy of a #12 pick though? Outside of that not sure how he even fits into the argument.

Ya I think he is worthy of it if Jimmer and Biyombo are already drafted. We might be able to trade down also and get him.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Ya I think he is worthy of it if Jimmer and Biyombo are already drafted. We might be able to trade down also and get him.

I don't think the Jazz have any workout plans for Jackson though. I doubt he is on their radar even in a trade down situation.

 

[Twin Towers]

I don't think the Jazz have any workout plans for Jackson though. I doubt he is on their radar even in a trade down situation.

Means nothing. Ronnie Brewer was never worked out.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Means nothing. Ronnie Brewer was never worked out.

Has Jackson worked out for anyone? He had an injury that prevented him from testing in the combine so that may be the reason as well.

 

[Twin Towers]

Has Jackson worked out for anyone? He had an injury that prevented him from testing in the combine so that may be the reason as well.

He did like 2 workouts from what I remember. But yes there was an injury and rumors of Portland or Celtics promising him they would draft him.

 

[Brown Notes]

I don't care how hard someone plays or how tough they are or how great there work ethic is if they aren't getting the job done and we keep losing to the elite teams every year. If we want to stay mediocre than keep players like Millsap at the 4. But if we want to be elite like the top teams we should do what they are doing and get size like EVERY single one of the top teams have.

Sap/AJ was not a good rebounding or defensive combination. Jefferson is not a good help defender and Sap can't deal with centers pretending to be PFs. Certainly doesn't make them mediocre individual players, just not a good fit in those spots. They looked a lot better playing with Favors as he does box out much more consistently. Sap/AJ really got in trouble with teams playing 2 center sized guys for all the reasons you mentioned. You are correct that Sap is not a starting 4 on a championship team. But that's not my point.

I don't recall Sap ever saying he wouldn't play the 3. He told a reporter that he didn't want to think about going back to the bench at the time of the question, which was right after the last game. IIRC. Maybe he did say something like what you said but I don't recall it.

You seem to think that keeping Millsap requires him to play starter minutes at PF. I don't agree with that premise. 10-15 minutes at 3, 15-20 minutes at 4. As a tweener player he has to be used creatively in situations that take advantage of his strengths. In this scenario there is plenty of room between the 4-5 spots for Favors, Al, and even a rook. Assuming Sap can improve his handle and J just a little bit he will be perfectly capable of this.

Also Sap is a productive vet within the flex. Your premise regarding Bass etc.. assumes that guys will just walk on the floor and immediately produce. They wouldn't and neither will any rookie. It takes a while to get it. Losing Sap would mean very likely losing 4-7 games directly from his departure, assuming Corbin keeps that offense.

Finally Millsap is a homegrown developed player. I hate the idea of having a guy get better year after year only to throw him away when he hits his prime. Sap is much more valuable than having yet another 20 year old.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Agree to disagree. Look at the list of players i have there. Do any of those guys have plays set up for them? Or do they have to create there own offense? They all have to create there own shots. They don't have set plays for the PF to score like the Jazz do almost every time down the court. Those guys have to get garbage points or hope the wing players pass to them on a pick and roll. The Jazz are very strict about looking for the PF rolling to the hoop. no other team does that. The Jazz also set screens for the PF to get open CONSISTENTLY. No other team does that.
We are overvaluing Millsap big time. He is a great role player but nothing more.

Dude you are a clown. None of those guys are given opportunities because they aren't skilled enough. I like to see Bass,Maxiel,Hansbrough,Landry, or Ed Davis knock down a step back jumper. They can't do it like Sap can.