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Remembering what Exum did for the Jazz and why management stands so firmly behind him

green said:
I'm still firmly 100% behind Exum. I still think he will be superstar.
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If Exum ends up a superstar then this team is already going to be dangerous and Hayward becomes our Robin. That's a hell of a team already.

Add a vet shooter and work on Lyles outside shot...
 
If Exum ends up a superstar then this team is already going to be dangerous and Hayward becomes our Robin. That's a hell of a team already.

Add a vet shooter and work on Lyles outside shot...
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Im really intrigued with Dejaunte Murray with the 12th pick......Im not very big on Mack/Neto backing up Exum and also DMurray would really make the guard play of the Jazz electrifying and in constant attack mode paired with Exum,Hood and Burks.
 
I'm an Exum fan and am really excited for next season. Still intrigued by idea of adding D. Murray. Could play with Exum or back him up. Makes me wonder what Shawn Livingston and Penny Hardaway could have become as teammates (assuming we could mix and match players from different eras).
 
It started with Dante locking the P.O.A down and Rudy(and Fave) locking the post. Which left our long athletic wings being hyper aggressive on D. I really just want the best player available to us either at #12 or through a trade. Am kind of stuck on Valentine but wish we could nab Chriss.

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FTR, I believe Exum will be a star.

I also believe a lot of you knuckleheads will think he is a bust after this season. There is a reason why I want the Jazz to sign a starting PG. Exum isn't ready yet.
 
green said:
FTR, I believe Exum will be a star.

I also believe a lot of you knuckleheads will think he is a bust after this season. There is a reason why I want the Jazz to sign a starting PG. Exum isn't ready yet.
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Im not saying that you are wrong but I wonder how many eventual stars looked like busts in their 3rd year at 21 years of age.
 
Looking at his stats from his rookie year.... Offensively he needs to improve a ton. Maybe more than anybody ever to get to "star" level (Hyperbole? Maybe, maybe not)

34% from the field, 31% from three, 62% from the line (wtf).
Per 36 he averaged 7.8 points, 3.9 assists, and 2.6 rebounds. 0.8 steals per 36, 0.3 blocks.
Gets to the line less than once per 36. (0.6 times per game)

Good news is that he can't be any worse offensively
 
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Good news is that he can't be any worse offensively
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Compared to what other 19 year old starting PG from ANY other team.........so easy to put your expert judgement on this 19 year old because he finished out as a starter on this Jazz team...How did the Jazz finish out ? Very curious to who you compare Exum too of other 19 year old starting PG's
 
tleikheen said:
Compared to what other 19 year old starting PG from ANY other team.........so easy to put your expert judgement on this 19 year old because he finished out as a starter on this Jazz team...How did the Jazz finish out ? Very curious to who you compare Exum of other 19 year old starting PG's
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Give me who you think is the worst 19 year old starting point guard that you can think of ever. And we can compare.

Look I understand that he was a super raw rookie. I'm saying that he needs to improve a ton to be considered a star. Do you disagree? Or do think he will be a star with only a little tiny bit of improvement?
 
fishonjazz said:
Im not saying that you are wrong but I wonder how many eventual stars looked like busts in their 3rd year at 21 years of age.
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Exum is such a weird case for a ton of reasons, but the biggest being he went from playing high school basketball in Australia to the NBA. I don't think that has ever been done. Oh, and he took a year off. Then he took another year off due to injury. In his three years since playing HS ball, he has played one year in the NBA and two with no games.

Most foreign players play professional ball to some extent before coming to the NBA.

Exum needs a couple of years to catch up to speed...and he decided unwillingly to take a year off after his rookie season. That's why I said three years. Next year is his rookie year. I'd be ecstatic with 9 pts, 4 assists 2 rebs. 2017 is his second year. I'd love to see 12 pts, 5 assists, 3 rebs.

Then 2018 have him break out. Get up to 18-20 pts, 8 assists, 5 rebs.
 
Playing Rudy and Exum on offense is like playing 3 on 5. In today's NBA, you can't have 40 percent of your starting lineup be complete 0s offensively.
 
The Thriller said:
Playing Rudy and Exum on offense is like playing 3 on 5. In today's NBA, you can't have 40 percent of your starting lineup be complete 0s offensively.
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Sounds logical, but the results say otherwise. The Jazz were dominant with this lineup after the allstar break in 2015.
 
I stumbled upon Exum's pre-draft thread on RealGM and someone posted this.

Anyone else notice some awkwardness on his one footed leaps and his knees locking a lot when he's standing or walking around? Watch the grande finals game when he's close to the camera in the corner and when he's at the FT line. Might be nothing, but scares me a little, my knees did the same thing to the tune of two acl tears and I get this unavoidable cringe when I see anything close to it.
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Kind of eerie :/. Hopefully since the Olympics are coming up we will get some kind of update on how he is progressing since being cleared for contact.
 
zyzz said:
I stumbled upon Exum's pre-draft thread on RealGM and someone posted this.



Kind of eerie :/. Hopefully since the Olympics are coming up we will get some kind of update on how he is progressing since being cleared for contact.
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Chris Mannix said that Exum was coming along a lot slower than expected. He said he was told best case is limited minutes until December.
 
Playing Rudy and Exum on offense is like playing 3 on 5. In today's NBA, you can't have 40 percent of your starting lineup be complete 0s offensively.

Sounds logical, but the results say otherwise. The Jazz were dominant with this lineup after the allstar break in 2015.
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This is the ignorance,some fans would take LESS winning for more offense.The jazz were so enamored with the Gobert/Favors/Exum led defense they completely bought into winning by defense 1st mentality.Which works.
Why are fans here so down on this young core where everyone of these young guys hasn't even come close to being what they can be offensively ? Fans here have already decided that a kid good enough to crack the lineup at 19 and make a big difference defensively is going to struggle offensively.So Exum can go mano y mano against the great PG's defensively but won't be able to do it offensively ?I think the opposite ,if he can do it defensively than it won't take long before he's doing it offensively also.Management seems to think so and I believe them with Exum.
Winning backs this up!!
 
If you could somehow make Exum's offense as good as his defense, and his defense as bad as his offense, people here would think he's on his way to stardom. Why? Because points are sexy and people are stupid. That's why.
 
tleikheen said:
This is the ignorance,some fans would take LESS winning for more offense.The jazz were so enamored with the Gobert/Favors/Exum led defense they completely bought into winning by defense 1st mentality.Which works.
Why are fans here so down on this young core where everyone of these young guys hasn't even come close to being what they can be offensively ? Fans here have already decided that a kid good enough to crack the lineup at 19 and make a big difference defensively is going to struggle offensively.So Exum can go mano y mano against the great PG's defensively but won't be able to do it offensively ?I think the opposite ,if he can do it defensively than it won't take long before he's doing it offensively also.Management seems to think so and I believe them with Exum.
Winning backs this up!!
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If we had hired Horny, we could have had both.
 
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