Report: Gordon Hayward, Utah Jazz discussing contract extension

[Flc]

I'm going on the record. I want both Hayward and Favors extended before the season starts.

If we let them enter free agency, is there honestly a chance we'd end up paying them less than we would right now?

Possibly. There are a number of big name players in next year's free agency crop that teams will be going after first.

The risk seems to be: do we wait and have to pay out more because the minutes and being go-to options raise their stats a significant margin, or do we overbid now with the potential of getting Kirilinkoed?

If I'm Hayward's agent, I tell him to hold off on signing.

 

[LogGrad98]

Hayward is easier to guage than Favors.

Favors is potential max (or not)

Hayward is right around 7-11 per.


Offer Hayward 8.5 per and call it a day.


Its smart to go after Hayward firsr too. If we lock him up then Favors is more inclined to except his.

But I thought we wanted Favors to accept an extension, not leave one on the table.

 

[franklin]

I don't know how the Jazz can determine contract value for either Hayward or Favors.

THis.

I don't think extensions happens unless the Jazz know they are getting a killer deal. Without extensions on the books, I believe the Jazz will have more cap-space next offseason than this one (provided that the cap number for Hayward and Favors are their qualifying offers).

Great point. It's 200% of the rookie scale for Favors (above average salary) -- $12mm. 250% for Hayward (below average salary) -- $8.63mm.

I don't think Favors is worth Ibaka money, and $9mm is around Hayward's value, so cap holds are moot IMO.

 

[orangello]

iawtp

Engrish plese.

 

[Harambe]

It's waaaaaay easier to guesstimate what Hayward is worth doe

And $8mil/year for Hayward would be such great value. I'd be ecstatic if that happened.

I'll go with Spycam on this one. Perhaps a front loaded 4yr contract starting at 10 and dipping to 7.2 or so.

 

[spycam1]

THis.



Great point. It's 200% of the rookie scale for Favors (above average salary) -- $12mm. 250% for Hayward (below average salary) -- $8.63mm.

I don't think Favors is worth Ibaka money, and $9mm is around Hayward's value, so cap holds are moot IMO.

Why? Favors will score just as much (quite possibly more), block just as many shots, and rebound more than Ibaka. And that's when we're simply talking about how good Favors is right now. I'd bet a large amount of money that Favors will be better than Ibaka by the 14-15 season.

 

[Jazz4ever]

My gut says they get the Hayward extension done, but fail to get Favor's locked up.

 

[Magic Spray]

Offer Favors 1 cent more than the deal Larry Sanders got. Hayward gets 8/year and all the Young Women tail he can handle until Raul Neto gets to the team.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I don't know how the Jazz can determine contract value for either Hayward or Favors.

I don't think extensions happens unless the Jazz know they are getting a killer deal. Without extensions on the books, I believe the Jazz will have more cap-space next offseason than this one (provided that the cap number for Hayward and Favors are their qualifying offers).

THis.



Great point. It's 200% of the rookie scale for Favors (above average salary) -- $12mm. 250% for Hayward (below average salary) -- $8.63mm.

I don't think Favors is worth Ibaka money, and $9mm is around Hayward's value, so cap holds are moot IMO.

While I understand the reasoning here, I completely disagree with it. With Hayward and Favors getting the "keys to the car" so to speak, they are in for a huge jump in minutes and numbers. In the very least they will both get enormous offers from Portland, that we will have to match to keep them. If we lock them up now we will end up getting them for cheaper than waiting to match a restricted offer. Waiting to match a restricted offer is basically telling those two key players that the Jazz organization does not believe in them which will not only open the door for them to leave... it might even get them wanting to leave and go somewhere they are wanted. Not extending them now would pay off if they got some sort of serious injury, but you just can't plan for that. We're not talking Kirilenko money here.... but we might get closer to those numbers if we have to match offers.

I'm going on the record. I want both Hayward and Favors extended before the season starts.

If we let them enter free agency, is there honestly a chance we'd end up paying them less than we would right now?

I'm with spycam on this, extend them both now.

 

[ema]

JazzSpazz!!!

 

[franklin]

Why? Favors will score just as much (quite possibly more), block just as many shots, and rebound more than Ibaka. And that's when we're simply talking about how good Favors is right now. I'd bet a large amount of money that Favors will be better than Ibaka by the 14-15 season.

I'm not getting into that discussion on Jazzfanz. Anything less than comparing Favors to God and this place turns into the dungeon on Hostel.

But I will leave you with this nice picture. Favors' shot chart is so embarrassing that NBA won't put him on their advanced stats list. That's why he won't get Ibaka money.

 

[UGLI baby]

i'm not getting into that discussion on jazzfanz. Anything less than comparing favors to god and this place turns into the dungeon on hostel.

But i will leave you with this nice picture. Favors' shot chart is so embarrassing that nba won't put him on their advanced stats list. That's why he won't get ibaka money.

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