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Resign Conley... do or don’t

Handlogten's Heros said:
Nope. Any sign and trade puts us over the apron and you can’t receive a player in a sign and trade unless you are under the apron.

Either you get Mike or you get nothing... next year I’d very much prefer Mike. In three years he might be toast and you’d prefer nothing. Based on DLs negotiating skills it’s a safe bet we give Mike 20% more than we should and an extra year more than we should.

Retaining Mike does mean you can move something else to fill in the roster imo... whether that is bogey or JC.

We done ran out of trade chips and are now putting our Rolex on the table.
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Damn, so sign and trade is out as well. Talk about being stuck between a rock and a hard place. Sounds like re-signing him might be our only option to stay as competitive as possible. I just hope we can somehow add a competent backup point guard for when Mike inevitably misses 20-30 games a year and likely some playoff games.
 
so Conley played

47/72 games plus 5 playoffs last year

51/72 games plus 5 playoffs this season


highest paid player in jazz history..


standards r low around here i guess...

To me, as an outsider, doesnt seem like Utah is getting what their paying for, y'kno? n Conley's the big winner here..
 
Only re-sign him if we can't get someone better, but I don't know what's possible given our cap situation. Doesn't look like we have a lot of options. Whether he comes back or not, we need a quality backup at PG. If he's back, he's going to miss games and we need someone who back him up who isn't named Mitchell or Ingles.
 
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resign
/rəˈzīn/
verb
  1. 1.
    voluntarily leave a job or other position.
    "he resigned from the company in protest of the treatment of his co-workers"
    2.
    accept that something undesirable cannot be avoided.
    "she resigned herself to a lengthy session"



re-sign
/rēˈsīn/

verb
  1. sign (a document) again.
    • engage (a sports player) to play for a team for a further period.
      "that win backed up my insistence that we re-sign him"
    • (of a sports player) commit oneself to play for a team for a further period.
      "they both played for the club last season and have agreed to re-sign"
 
Jingled said:
Damn, so sign and trade is out as well. Talk about being stuck between a rock and a hard place. Sounds like re-signing him might be our only option to stay as competitive as possible. I just hope we can somehow add a competent backup point guard for when Mike inevitably misses 20-30 games a year and likely some playoff games.
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Yup... you sign him and then the pivot comes with other people. I think its the right move anyway. When Mike is healthy he's a winning player who is well rounded. He increases the ceiling of the team. We need to use Bojan/JC as trade chips to get better pieces but that's a long shot.

Most likely what we do is sign Mike and use the taxpayer MLE on someone like Rudy Gay. This will be mega spendy so you offload JC for a smaller contract and likely a worse player. We don't have the assets or heart to unload Favs.

The other route is praying you hit on a minimum guy like OP jr. ... Torrey Craig, Wes Matthews, maybe Marc Gasol (and you send out Favs for a different player with an equally cumbersome contract but fills a different need).

Basically all we have to do is hit a homerun around the edges... the exact moves we have ****ed up continually.
 
Lord Bullingdon said:
so Conley played

47/72 games plus 5 playoffs last year

51/72 games plus 5 playoffs this season


highest paid player in jazz history..


standards r low around here i guess...

To me, as an outsider, doesnt seem like Utah is getting what their paying for, y'kno? n Conley's the big winner here..
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DL and the sunk cost fallacy are best of friends. The more and more I think about it the more I think there needs to be wholesale changes with the roster but thanks to DL's brilliant roster building that won't happen without the roster being completely torn down and going into a full blown rebuild a la the thunder.
 
MoTappin said:
Only re-sign him if we can't get someone better, but I don't know what's possible given our cap situation. Doesn't look like we have a lot of options. Whether he comes back or not, we need a quality backup at PG. If he's back, he's going to miss games and we need someone who back him up who isn't named Mitchell or Ingles.
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How can Utah expect to compete with PHX paying Conley the same $$$ the Suns pay CP3 tho???

is that a "winning trade" to you? not to me, its not even neutral its clearly a losing trade...


Same thing I used to say during the Hayward max money contract discussion, how far does this really get u in playoff scenarios..
 
That1UtahFan said:
DL and the sunk cost fallacy are best of friends. The more and more I think about it the more I think there needs to be wholesale changes with the roster but thanks to DL's brilliant roster building that won't happen without the roster being completely torn down and going into a full blown rebuild a la the thunder.
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That extra pick looms large now.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
Why. Sounds like they pretty much have to re-sign him unless: (1) Mike wants to leave; or (2) we are tanking.
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oh they have to resign him they have no choice, its completely doomed tho..

The suns have better talent n pay better prices for it tho.. how can Utah compete?
 
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