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I think there are some unique variables with Ricky here that aren’t as applicable to guys like Favors:
1. Ricky was drafted really high even though he wasn’t coming over immediately. Was very hyped. His play ended up being disappointing and he was with a really ****** franchise.
2. That franchise trades him for a first round pick because they want to dump his contract.
3. He interrupts his summer in Spain to go help his new franchise try to maintain the douche that left, then participated in the cleanup after that guy leaves.
4. Ends up being on a team where his coach has irrational confidence in him, and wants him shooting every open shot.
5. Despite not really playing to his strengths, he fits in as a strong presence amongst a group of guys with great comradery, gets targeted physically in multiple games last year and his whole team comes to his defense.
6. Goes on to talk about how his next contract isn’t about money but being in the right situation where he can be happy.
7. Ends up floated in a trade where his current team is wanting to upgrade him, but does not want to include his backup in the trade. The Jazz are willing to give Memphis as long as it takes to make a decision, and show that there’s no move they care more about than swapping Ricky for this other guy.
8. The other team is not trading for him, nor is he wanted. He’s on an expiring contract which is the only thing of value he brings to the trade. It’s a trade where it’s clear to him that he’s not wanted by either party. It’s like being the kid in a custody battle where your dad doesn’t want you, but doesn’t want to have to pay child support, and your mom doesn’t want you, either, but sees some value in receiving child support, so you become an impersonal pawn in the negotiation.
So, yeah, I think Ricky’s going to take this a little personally.
1. Ricky was drafted really high even though he wasn’t coming over immediately. Was very hyped. His play ended up being disappointing and he was with a really ****** franchise.
2. That franchise trades him for a first round pick because they want to dump his contract.
3. He interrupts his summer in Spain to go help his new franchise try to maintain the douche that left, then participated in the cleanup after that guy leaves.
4. Ends up being on a team where his coach has irrational confidence in him, and wants him shooting every open shot.
5. Despite not really playing to his strengths, he fits in as a strong presence amongst a group of guys with great comradery, gets targeted physically in multiple games last year and his whole team comes to his defense.
6. Goes on to talk about how his next contract isn’t about money but being in the right situation where he can be happy.
7. Ends up floated in a trade where his current team is wanting to upgrade him, but does not want to include his backup in the trade. The Jazz are willing to give Memphis as long as it takes to make a decision, and show that there’s no move they care more about than swapping Ricky for this other guy.
8. The other team is not trading for him, nor is he wanted. He’s on an expiring contract which is the only thing of value he brings to the trade. It’s a trade where it’s clear to him that he’s not wanted by either party. It’s like being the kid in a custody battle where your dad doesn’t want you, but doesn’t want to have to pay child support, and your mom doesn’t want you, either, but sees some value in receiving child support, so you become an impersonal pawn in the negotiation.
So, yeah, I think Ricky’s going to take this a little personally.
Should have traded TF out of Exum in a Conley deal and bring Ricky off the bench. I’m not even certain how tight Exum is with anyone.
Jazzta
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This, it sucks that the information was leaked, probably not on our end. And if Rubio likes it here and wants to stay I don’t think calling out the FO publicly was the smartest thing to do, but I totally understand where his frustration comes from.
It’s become an awkward situation for both parties and I wonder how it will be handled from here on.
Also I don’t remember such criticism against a starter for a good while.
When you read **** like “I’d rather have the Jazz lose by 50 than see Rubio play” and other gems you realize that it’s just irrational hate against him coming from some posters. It’s all good.
I don’t think Quin had much of any. Even last year there were rumblings of discord between coaching staff and the FO regarding our future. Quin has always played Ricky even when it’s not working. I think the fact that he continued to go with him even after that Atlanta game last year made Quin feel very validated when things turned, and Ricky felt he really had someone who believed in him. I’m not certain any of this is on Quin.
Jazzta
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Good take, this is basically what I was thinking too.
Jazzta
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Best post I’ve read in this thread.
jjscap
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Coach Q wanted Conley. He needs offense asap. His words like "Oh if anything DM should shoot more" imply he's unhappy about the roster. He starts Rubio because he has to and is a believer in continuity and tenacity, a la Stan Van Gundy. If Neto was healthy for a longish period and in rhythm he'd be Q's starter because he fits the system much better than other non shooting PGs and is much more consistent and dependable, as evidenced by him leading the team in netrtg in consecutive years.
Sandman822
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Yeah I agree with this, I could totally see DL not bothering to even grab another starting PG in the offseason and just buying more shooting and a backup PG instead to force Quin into starting Exum so DL and crew can see what they've really got with him.
The mailman
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... Or how low Memphis’ opinion of Ricky is.