RIP Robin Williams

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Does anyone else have fond memories of Fern Gully? I know it isn't a Robin Williams movie per se, but he voiced a major character and it was a favorite of my kids when they were little. And then we moved to Fernley, NV for work and my youngest son was amazed we were going to live in Ferngully.

yo my name is batty
my logic is erratic
potato in a jacket
toys in the attic
I rock and I ramble
my brain is scrambled
rap like an animal
but I'm a mammal

 

[LogGrad98]

Loved that one when i was younger. Bought it for me kids and they dont seem to like it as much as i did lol.

"Price check on prune juice, Bob!"

He had some great lines in that one:

"Human tails? Humans don't have tails. They have big, big bottoms that they wear with bad shorts and they walk around going, 'Hi, Helen'. "

 

[fishonjazz]

I never asked to feel this way. I spent OVER TEN ****ING YEARS hearing from EVERYONE how I just needed to snap out of it. I couldn't understand why I constantly felt like **** after my cancer treatment was over. I thought life should continue just as before, right? I had been the life of the party, always the one to welcome people to the group. I loved to be around people. My wife was drawn to that, it is what pulled us together in the first place really. Now I was more often than not sullen, I didn't want to be around anyone, I wanted to sit by myself in a corner or not go. I couldn't shake the feelings of dread, and I hated myself for it. And ALL I ****ING GOT FROM ANYONE WAS SNAP OUT OF IT, WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU, YOU AREN'T THE MAN I MARRIED ANYMORE, LOOK WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO YOUR KIDS, HOW CAN YOU BE SO SELFISH TO ALWAYS DO WHAT YOU WANT AND NOT BE THERE FOR YOUR FAMILY, WHAT KIND OF A PIECE OF **** ARE YOU THAT YOU CAN'T JUST SNAP OUT OF IT, YOUR KIDS NEED YOU, WHY ARE YOU SUCH A BAD FATHER, WHY ARE YOU CHOOSING TO DISCONNECT FROM LIFE, CAN'T YOU SEE THE GIGANTIC MIRACLE GOD HAS WROUGHT GETTING YOU THROUGH CANCER, BE A MAN...BE A ****ING MAN!!!

WELL YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT NEVER HELPS, IT NEVER HELPS AT ALL. THAT IS THE ********. THE ******** IS THAT WE ARE SO POISONED AGAINST SHOWING ANY KIND OF WEAKNESS THAT WE GET SHAMED INTO THINKING IT IS ALL US, IT IS OUR CHOICES, IT IS OUR FAILINGS THAT MAKE US LIKE THIS. BY MY PARENTS, MY WIFE, THE CHURCH LEADERS I TURNED TO FOR HELP, EVEN MY BEST FRIEND SAT THERE AND SAID "HEY JUST SNAP OUT OF IT, BE A MAN!!"

BY GOD I DARE ANYONE WHO IS NOT A MAN TO GO THROUGH THIS FOR THE BETTER PART OF 2 DECADES WITHOUT KILLING THEMSELVES. IT TAKES MORE THAN A MAN TO FIGHT THROUGH IT EVERY SINGLE MINUTE OF EVERY SINGLE DAY!!! IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE AND YOU CANNOT KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE THEN SHUT THE **** UP...AND LISTEN!! JUST STOP TALKING AND LISTEN TO THE PERSON.

I finally had someone listen to me. We had moved around and finally made it back to Utah. I had attempted suicide twice in that time frame, believing WITH ALL MY SOUL THAT IT WAS DOING MY FAMILY...MY KIDS...A HUGE FAVOR. GET OUT OF THEIR LIVES, SET THEM FREE. We started going back to a doctor that I had always connected with. He listened to whatever it was I had gone to him about, then just put his hand on my leg and looked into my eyes and asked "but how are you?" I broke down then and there and felt like a total ***** for doing it. I still feel somewhat ashamed. I told him everything I had been feeling, and that I couldn't understand why I felt that way, and how it and what everyone was telling me made me feel about myself. We talked and he walked me through the first assessment I had taken, and told me I was suffering from clinical depression. After a few more visits with him and a couple other doctors, among them a neurologist and a psychiatrist, I was diagnosed with a form of post-traumatic stress syndrome. The same thing guys have coming home from war. It occurs in patients who had dealt with a serious physical trauma (cancer is a common trigger) in which the body more or less reconfigures the brain chemistry to help the mind cope with an uncopeable (is that a word?) situation, and sometimes the brain cannot bounce back, the chemicals stay out of whack even though the trigger is gone, and long-term severe depression is often the result.

After nearly 8 years of my family's life I finally started getting help. Most of my children's childhood they had to deal with a dad like me, and I will never get those years back. Oh I wasn't abusive, but depression makes itself known. I was hyper-critical, didn't want to spend time with my kids, I was quick to anger, and slow to apologize, I was suffering and in some ways took it out on my family. That is where the "how can you do this to your family" bit comes in I guess.

Now I have been in treatment for about 6 years, and I have come to terms, mostly, with the fact that I will likely never get on top of this. To date I have tried 14 different medications all with varying effects, none that really every worked. The most I can hope for, I fear, is to feel kind of ok sometimes. But that is better than the alternative. Not long after I quit Jazzfanz a while back I went through an experience trying to help someone very very dear to me get through her own bout with depression, and I was on the phone with her trying to talk her down when she decided to end her life. I was already in a low point and it put me into a tailspin and I made another attempt on my own life.

I'm doing ok now. I go through periods of severe relapse, following by adjusting meds or trying new ones, and then I get back to ok. But I can live with ok.

I guess I needed to share, I don't know why I put all this out there, but there it is.

If you know anyone you have ever told to just "snap out of it" please try to help them get help.

Damn bro.
Wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
Hope you are ok.
Fwiw I really like you as a poster on jazzfanz

 

[Tarkanian]

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bro:.
you are one of the best posters on this forum.
best regards

 

[One Brow]

Not at all. I never said anything about the logic of the idea, because I know logic isn't in play.

I think depression is a horrible disease that nobody should have to go through. I think suicide is a selfish act. Those two thoughts can co-exist.

I agree you never said anything about the logic of the idea; my use of "context" does not refer to the logic of the idea.

Relieving your loved ones of a burden is not usually considered a selfish act.

 

[Chris-L]

Susan Schneider, Williams' wife asked people to remember what Williams gave to the world, rather than his mental illness.

"This morning, I lost my husband and my best friend, while the world lost one of its most beloved artists and beautiful human beings. I am utterly heartbroken. On behalf of Robin's family, we are asking for privacy during our time of profound grief. As he is remembered, it is our hope the focus will not be on Robin's death, but on the countless moments of joy and laughter he gave to millions."


Toys, Hook, Goodwill Hunting, Mrs. Doubtfire and many more were some of my all time favorite movies growing up. Gonna miss him...

 

[addictionary]

This is a big part of the problem when it comes to dealing with mental illness as a society. At some basic level, perhaps a subconscious one, many people refused to accept that mental illness is real and not something you can just snap out of because you want to. That's how you get morons like Hantlers, whose suggestion for a mentally ill, irrational person is to stop and rationally think about what they're doing. In other words, his solution to mental illness is that you should decide to stop being mentally ill. You can't help but feel that anyone who thinks this way deep down does not believe that there are such things as depression. That you can just decide to not be sad and that's it.

It's possible actually. But it requires not having soul. I tried that for a long time but now I'm just not sure pushing sadness and anger away is the right thing to do.

 

[Harambe]

****ing hell this place is full of a bunch of estrogen pumped bitchasses. negs to anyone trolling YB and pos to those who have any semblance of humanity. You ****s are crying pity to those who chose the easy way out instead of rooting for them to find happiness? Give me a ****ing break.

This, on the other hand, is completely acceptable.

 

[addictionary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GorgFtCqPEs

 

[addictionary]

If (as I heard, and I cannot confirm it) he suffered from lifelong depression, then I want you to imagine fighting against the impulse to do yourself in EVERY DAY. Do that for 50 years (let's assume it started in adolescence, which is a reasonable assumption) and tell me how cowardly it is to finally give in.

Damn! I am living the fear of having the same problem inside my head right now. I thought I fixed myself, but maybe I never had. Maybe I will end up like him who knows? I am 32 years behind him.

 

[Harambe]

Susan Schneider, Williams' wife asked people to remember what Williams gave to the world, rather than his mental illness.

"This morning, I lost my husband and my best friend, while the world lost one of its most beloved artists and beautiful human beings. I am utterly heartbroken. On behalf of Robin's family, we are asking for privacy during our time of profound grief. As he is remembered, it is our hope the focus will not be on Robin's death, but on the countless moments of joy and laughter he gave to millions."


Toys, Hook, Goodwill Hunting, Mrs. Doubtfire and many more were some of my all time favorite movies growing up. Gonna miss him...

Lets not forget voice acting... he was the Genie from Aladdin, and the bat from Ferngully

 

[fishonjazz]

Damn! I am living the fear of having the same problem inside my head right now. I thought I fixed myself, but maybe I never had. Maybe I will end up like him who knows? I am 32 years behind him.

Your fellow jazzfanzers love you man