Roster Building From Here - FA and Summer of 2023

[Tom349]

I see where you are coming from, but obviously we completely disagree with the direction and both can twist the narrative our own way. So this is kinda pointless to debate about.

Still disagree about the Conely part, since we had multiple callers from teams who were on the buyer side of things. They saw Conley as a cheap upgrade, and I'm 100% sure we had SRP deals on the table but Danny rightfully doesnt give a fk about some Clippers future second rounders. He was never a dump.

As for their actions supporting what they say... they traded away 2 pieces that didnt fit (Beasley and Vando) and 3rd (Conley) who wasnt going to be in our championship window. The most telling thing however was that they didnt trade away Clarkson and KO. Justify keeping those two based on your tanking logic. If I wanted to tank, I sell them both for the highest bidder for sure. I mean we were what 2 games above Indy at the deadline?

I disagree with the idea but I do think they want JC here long term. Im a fan of his but going forward would rather go in a different direction. KO has lost any of his earlier season trade value and is more valuable to us with his 3m guaranteed option for next season. Again comes down to flexibility. JC could leave for a better offer and KO could be cut and we have an additional 25m in cap space this off season.

I don't think keeping either player stop us from having the third worst record in the west. My biggest gripe in regards to keeping them is the opportunity its stop others from getting, rather than adding more wins.

 

[HermanG]

FYI. Zanik talked about the trade in Roundball Roundup podcast. Link below.

Few pickups (all related to the trade):
- He sounded like NAW was the guy they didn't want to give up, but had to to make the deal happen.
- He used the words "as we are opening our championship window"
- "We also had some challenges going into the season where our roster was not quite balanced"
- "What we wanted to accomplish by the end of this year, results agnostic, was to come out knowing what each player kind of is going forward"
- More THT minutes, Sexton in a bigger role. Also mentions Dok.

Also when asked about the 15 FRP we have he immediately jumps to add the cap space and roster flexibility to that and says the options are endless. First thing he mentions is "unbalanced contract trade".. which of course can be interpreted as getting a star without matching money or taking a bad contract without giving up players. However the tone indicates its more about the former than the latter.

Sidenote:
Zanik seems to respect Hardy a lot and appreciate what he has done with this roster.

Roundball Roundup: Justin Zanik on the Jazz's trade deadline

Jazz general manager Justin Zanik joined JP Chunga to recap the deadline, Will Hardy, and Russell Westbrook.

www.nba.com

 

[HermanG]

I disagree with the idea but I do think they want JC here long term. Im a fan of his but going forward would rather go in a different direction. KO has lost any of his earlier season trade value and is more valuable to us with his 3m guaranteed option for next season. Again comes down to flexibility. JC could leave for a better offer and KO could be cut and we have an additional 25m in cap space this off season.

I don't think keeping either player stop us from having the third worst record in the west. My biggest gripe in regards to keeping them is the opportunity its stop others from getting, rather than adding more wins.

Its fine, we can disagree and probably forget this conversation happened before either one is proven right or wrong. I'm just fairly certain we are not looking towards the bottom.. which honestly is really hard to do with a guy like Lauri on the roster playing big minutes.

 

[Step-Back Hook]

One thing I am sure of: no one is going to be overpaid.

I see us adding one rookie into starting five and another one or two into the bench to show if they can become starters. I think we gonna do one trade up in the draft to secure as someone we really want to get here. With our three firsts and a 2nd it makes no sense to me adding four rookies. We have Sexton that is relatively young as well as Lauri - both in good contracts. We have Kessler as the third starter. Then we have Ochai that I think might be starting off the bench on becoming season. Then we have THT on the bench. Five young or relatively young piece that makes a good start.

Then there is. JC - now will he get re-signed or not that's the biggest question. We need a rookie wing and a rookie guard. If JC gets re-signed I think our starting rookie will be at 3/4 position. If JC goes somewhere else our starting rookie can be also on guard position to start becoming season.
I would prefere to move on fro JC bc I am not sure if he is ok going back to start off the bench and Sexton has showed me he belongs to the starting five. We need more playmaking for the future and I don't care if he is a wing or a guard as far he can create on a high level.

Then we will sign one or two more experienced dudes on team friendly deal to mentor. I don't know who the are but that's what we gonna sign from FA or do some cute small trade for them.

Lauri and Kessler are the only locks for starters on becoming season and i would like Sexton to be the third. I predict we have just one rookie on starters while one or two will work their way up off the bench.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think Grant Williams is a guy we end up seriously pursuing. I could see it even being a sign and trade with KO headed back to Boston. They are kind of out of budget and I can see Grant getting 20M a year. I’m kinda wishy washy about him honestly… good defender but not like a lock down guard defender. He’s also really annoying… he might have a little more to his game he can expand on though.

 

[Udidthizz]

That 27 LAL first is the year after the season they will most likely be tanking, if everyone left, having their own pick. If they don't tank they wont in 27 eitther knowing the odds of keeping it are shiut. They are not likely to be nearly as bad in 27 with as fast as LAL have added free agents in the past.
If the Jazz can trade that pick before the 26 season starts, maybe it has nice return value. Otherwise it is probably going to lose value quickly. AD probably stays there if they can get some help in free agency after Lebron goes back to CLE for his farewell tour.

I hope we can use that pick to move up in the draft to get a guy we really want. Obviously no one can predict what the Lakers will do in 27, but it may end up like a game of hot potato where the last one holding it looks the fool.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Next year is probably going to suck so bad. Maybe even the year after There’s no “championship window” coming if we don’t rank

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Next year is probably going to suck so bad. Maybe even the year after There’s no “championship window” coming if we don’t rank

We desperately need a home run in this draft... whether that comes by hitting the lotto and jumping into the top 4 or having one of the three picks be awesome immediately. I think we have a decent chance at making it happen.

 

[Step-Back Hook]

We desperately need a home run in this draft... whether that comes by hitting the lotto and jumping into the top 4 or having one of the three picks be awesome immediately. I think we have a decent chance at making it happen.

I agree: Multiple picks incoming. Great GM, great coach, great developmental staff. even without a top 4 pick chances are ok to find a hit.

 

[Jingled]

I know there's been some talk on here about pursuing Grant Williams in free agency this summer. Marc Stein is reporting he's seeking a Keldon Johnson type deal, around $20 million a year.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I know there's been some talk on here about pursuing Grant Williams in free agency this summer. Marc Stein is reporting he's seeking a Keldon Johnson type deal, around $20 million a year.

I bet he gets it too. Any decent FA in their mid 20s will get some dough this offseason. Especially 3 and D types. I bet Williams gets $20M a year... Cam Johnson likely $25M a year-ish. Its a lot, but I won't be surprised.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Since Atlanta couldn't find a deal for Collins, does anybody think they would get desperate enough to sell Hunter in order to avoid the tax? (Someone please validate my crazy idea)