Roster Building From Here - FA and Summer of 2023

[Bodhi]

I’m not debating though. Just wondering.

I have no interest in long-form arguments.

God speed

 

[NUMBERICA]

I would be content to get a 2nd for THT.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Who are the players you actually like?

I like watching Luka. He's an artist at one-man basketball. I wouldn't sell the farm to get him or turn the team over to him.

Why is it more logical to ignore every red flag this guy has developed in the NBA over the years? I mean... Dallas sucks. They're bad. And the whole team has been constructed according to Doncic's wishes. He's had a say in every singe personnel devision for god knows how long. We can't treat him like a victim of circumstance. He made his own bed.

It won't be any different if he miraculously chooses to play in Utah. He plays only one way, and we've seen that it requires a superhuman effort by one guy to win like that deep in the playoffs. It's not sustainable.

I like plenty of players, but I refuse to trust these malcontent stars who want the world to revolve around them. Fool's gold. To me it's fit and team ball above everything else.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I like watching Luka. He's an artist at one-man basketball. I wouldn't sell the farm to get him or turn the team over to him.

Why is it more logical to ignore every red flag this guy has developed in the NBA over the years? I mean... Dallas sucks. They're bad. And the whole team has been constructed according to Doncic's wishes. He's had a say in every singe personnel devision for god knows how long. We can't treat him like a victim of circumstance. He made his own bed.

It won't be any different if he miraculously chooses to play in Utah. He plays only one way, and we've seen that it requires a superhuman effort by one guy to win like that deep in the playoffs. It's not sustainable.

I like plenty of players, but I refuse to trust these malcontent stars who want the world to revolve around them. Fool's gold. To me it's fit and team ball above everything else.

It was a simple question. You do you.

 

[fishonjazz]

So now we want to bring in a guy who will only accept an extreme version of heliocentric basketball, comes into every training camp overweight and spends half a season playing himself into shape, requires a roster tailor-made for him, and may already be past his prime in a couple of years?

That's some tremendous downside

 

[fishonjazz]

It was a simple question. You do you.

Steph is a chucker who takes too many ill advised 35 footers, Gianni's can't shoot the three, jokic is too big and lumbering to defend the perimeter, embiid is a ball hog black hole who doesn't get enough assists
NBA players suck

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Steph is a chucker who takes too many ill advised 35 footers, Gianni's can't shoot the three, jokic is too big and lumbering to defend the perimeter, embiid is a ball hog black hole who doesn't get enough assists
NBA players suck

OK.

So we should sell the farm to get Luka if a window like that suddenly opens? Trade away most of our young talent, plus a truckload of FRP's? Because that's what it would take.

Please tell me why. And note that "Because it's Luka" isn't a good enough reason. Neither is "Duh, you should be called Tremendous Downside".

Making that Luka trade would turn us into another Dallas. The current version. One way ticket to basketball hell.

 

[Elizah Huge]

OK.

So we should sell the farm to get Luka if a window like that suddenly opens? Trade away most of our young talent, plus a truckload of FRP's? Because that's what it would take.

Please tell me why. And note that "Because it's Luka" isn't a good enough reason. Neither is "Duh, you should be called Tremendous Downside".

Making that Luka trade would turn us into another Dallas. The current version. One way ticket to basketball hell.

If we can keep Lauri, Kessler and Ochai then yes we should absolutely do it.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

If we can keep Lauri, Kessler and Ochai then yes we should absolutely do it.

Right.

That's not happening. Anyone who's thinking that we can get Doncic with some picks and a pu-pu platter of meh is fooling themselves.

Dallas would literally be looking for the biggest haul in NBA history.

 

[HermanG]

OK.

So we should sell the farm to get Luka if a window like that suddenly opens? Trade away most of our young talent, plus a truckload of FRP's? Because that's what it would take.

Please tell me why. And note that "Because it's Luka" isn't a good enough reason. Neither is "Duh, you should be called Tremendous Downside".

Making that Luka trade would turn us into another Dallas. The current version. One way ticket to basketball hell.

One thing I'm curious about is you object every trade scenario, seem to dislike most prospects and oppose tanking for higher pick.

So what is a good solution? Who is a good player? How do we build a contender?

 

[hgb]

If we can keep Lauri, Kessler and Ochai then yes we should absolutely do it.

The big question is obviously, say that Luka is available: What do you give up to get him?
I haven't done calculations, but from a quick glance I think we need to trade Someone™ to match salaries this summer, but e.g. THT would be more than enough.
Looking at our guys, outside of the ones we really don't want to give up, no one really moves the needle for Mavs.

How many picks are talking about here?

 

[homeytennis]

I predict we will bring in this year's equivalent of Uncle Jeff and Ed Davis either through trade or free agent signing and probably overpay for them.