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Roster Building From Here - FA and Summer of 2023

Handlogten's Heros said:
I may have to quit if we got Trae. I just hate so much of what he’s about. Murray is a good target… Hunter whatevs. Collins? If he gets his finger fixed maybe but I’d rather just draft Tay Henny.

I think Murray is the only real target there.
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My quick thoughts :

Collins is the most untradeable player in the league. I've given up on that idea.

I'd be more open to Trae if he didn't have such bad attitude problems. I think he's really good as a player, but not someone you want leading a team obviously. Absolutely miserable to watch as well with his foul bating. Top 5 worst players to watch in the league easily.

Murray has an extremely weirdo personality, but he's probably not malicious. He's not perfect, but his defense and rebounding are much needed. I agree he's the only real target.

Hunter isn't worth what he will cost in trade.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Just think for a second. You really think having a generationally bad defender share the court with you does not affect your ability to play defense.

Just think.
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I'm purely talking about skill and ability. Trae makes life harder on defense for everyone around him, he does not change their actual skill or ability. Playing with or without Trae Young does not change my opinion that Hunter is overrated as a man to man defender who also provides no defensive playmaking. If he was not playing with Trae , I do not think his skill and ability would just suddenly skyrocket.
 
KqWIN said:
My quick thoughts :

Collins is the most untradeable player in the league. I've given up on that idea.

I'd be more open to Trae if he didn't have such bad attitude problems. I think he's really good as a player, but not someone you want leading a team obviously. Absolutely miserable to watch as well with his foul bating. Top 5 worst players to watch in the league easily.

Murray has an extremely weirdo personality, but he's probably not malicious. He's not perfect, but his defense and rebounding are much needed. I agree he's the only real target.

Hunter isn't worth what he will cost in trade.
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I kind of like Murray's personality tbh... super cool backstory there. Depends on how the draft goes and if we would have the possibility to extend him (either with a new CBA or through a re-negotiate and extend deal). He'd fit the timeline. I am not sure he is a true AS level pg or if he is just really good and was opportunistic with good usage in SA.

I'd also like that you kind of have a price set on him... like he was just traded for 2 unprotected picks, a heavily protected 1st and a swap. So, one year left feels like an unprotected pick and the Lakers pick would be the range. Like the price shouldn't get out of hand unless there are a few bidders.
 
You know what is nice.... our two best players really seem to like each other. I know that is touchy feely mumbo jumbo... but it matters and it never felt like Don and Rudy were as cool with each other as Walker and Lauri. It must be nice to come to work with people you not only respect but like.

I'm going to try and be more positive even if we win a game or two that hurt our draft stuff... should be more grateful for what we are seeing and building.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I kind of like Murray's personality tbh... super cool backstory there. Depends on how the draft goes and if we would have the possibility to extend him (either with a new CBA or through a re-negotiate and extend deal). He'd fit the timeline. I am not sure he is a true AS level pg or if he is just really good and was opportunistic with good usage in SA.

I'd also like that you kind of have a price set on him... like he was just traded for 2 unprotected picks, a heavily protected 1st and a swap. So, one year left feels like an unprotected pick and the Lakers pick would be the range. Like the price shouldn't get out of hand unless there are a few bidders.
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He's had some weird quotes about his time in SAS, sounds like he always thinks people are out to get him. But tbf that's not the worst thing ever and there's probably a hint of truth to what he's saying and with his background it's understandable why he's this way. It's kind of like having a perma chip on his shoulder.

If we can know beforehand that he will resign, I think he's worth trading for. He's not the most efficient offensive player with his mid range heavy game, but I do think his non-conventional style will hold up against playoff defenses.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I kind of like Murray's personality tbh... super cool backstory there. Depends on how the draft goes and if we would have the possibility to extend him (either with a new CBA or through a re-negotiate and extend deal). He'd fit the timeline. I am not sure he is a true AS level pg or if he is just really good and was opportunistic with good usage in SA.

I'd also like that you kind of have a price set on him... like he was just traded for 2 unprotected picks, a heavily protected 1st and a swap. So, one year left feels like an unprotected pick and the Lakers pick would be the range. Like the price shouldn't get out of hand unless there are a few bidders.
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Murray is a giant douche bag
 
KqWIN said:
He's had some weird quotes about his time in SAS, sounds like he always thinks people are out to get him. But tbf that's not the worst thing ever and there's probably a hint of truth to what he's saying and with his background it's understandable why he's this way. It's kind of like having a perma chip on his shoulder.

If we can know beforehand that he will resign, I think he's worth trading for. He's not the most efficient offensive player with his mid range heavy game, but I do think his non-conventional style will hold up against playoff defenses.
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Lauri is like one of the most efficient half court dudes in the league... so medium efficiency would probably work. He seems like a good playmaker too. He has that dawg in him. I'm not much into accelerating the process through "star" hunting but I think Murray might be top 3-4 guys I would be happy they went after.

I think because we have cap space we could do a re-negotiate and extend. The new CBA should be done soon and we will see if they fixed the extension issues.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Ehh, the **** he was doing over the summer was over the line.
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Like in the summer games where he was fighting with Banchero and stuff? If so I agree it wasn't good... but I still have no problem with him Ain't like he knocked out a teammate.
 
Unless its serious nonsense... not sure you could find a better fringe all-star to meld in with the group that would be actually available. He isn't perfect but would help with playmaking, pg play, defense and give us more positional size. The price might be pretty reasonable as well.
 
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