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Roster Building From Here - FA and Summer of 2023

Handlogten's Heros said:
Looking at the quotes from Dame, Luka, and watching some other situations. Gonna be a lot of teams star hunting and things could get wild… will be some disappointed teams too. I think this may be a sit on the sidelines year for us… maybe something much smaller than most think here.
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Jazz are not going to blow up everything they did in the last year to make a run at Dame, Trae, or any other massive risk for a star with catastrophic shortcomings.

Unless something like a Luka trade possibility shakes loose this off-season, the Jazz are building in earnest.
 
Elizah Huge said:
How is a guy who averages 10.2 APG and isn’t even in the top-6 for usage rate selfish?
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I think you have to be super committed to TraeBall if you get him. There are guys worth doing that for… but Trae’s teams will always have a somewhat limited ceiling imo. The defense is bad and while he’s a great passer he doesn’t move without the ball… I think he’s a bad teammate in some ways but who knows… that locker room is just so full of drama.

I’m just not a fan… I think he’s good but I doubt guys are lining up to play with him and I generally hate watching him.
 
Elizah Huge said:
People insinuating they would only take him if Atlanta gave us something with him is pointless.
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Huh? We are talking about the Jazz’s situation and you are talking about the Hawks’ situation. Nothing is more pointless than responding to a point not made.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Jazz are not going to blow up everything they did in the last year to make a run at Dame, Trae, or any other massive risk for a star with catastrophic shortcomings.

Unless something like a Luka trade possibility shakes loose this off-season, the Jazz are building in earnest.
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Ainge isn’t the type to overpay or pay the max for star players. Look at the Garnett and Irving deals.

I think if we did make a play for one of them it would be for less than what people assume.

The new CBA will also make teams think twice before sending out that many picks and taking on that much money in a single deal.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Huh? We are talking about the Jazz’s situation and you are talking about the Hawks’ situation. Nothing is more pointless than responding to a point not made.
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Please feel free to respond to the rest of the post I made then.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Jazz are not going to blow up everything they did in the last year to make a run at Dame, Trae, or any other massive risk for a star with catastrophic shortcomings.

Unless something like a Luka trade possibility shakes loose this off-season, the Jazz are building in earnest.
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I think it’s the other way… I think those teams will be looking for stars and might make guys like Grant FVV and some others get mega paid. I’d hunt around Dejounte Murray and some guys like that. I think next year, when those teams shoot their shot and it doesn’t work, there will be more stars on the market.

We will see but I’m sensing some desperation out there.
 
Elizah Huge said:
ECF isn’t nothing.
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It was basically nothing. Sixers melted down more than anything. They’ve done absolutely nothing since.

Blazers and Dallas made the conference finals recently. Did those mean anything? Trading for Trae because he made that ECF years ago is silly as hell. We have a much bigger body of work to use every other season.
 
NUMBERICA said:
It might be if it’s lightning in a bottle or otherwise context-dependent. I basically don’t count the Jazz’s trip in ‘07. Nor should Portland fans count the Blazers’ trip in ‘19.
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They quite literally were on the verge of going up 2-1 in the ECF before Trae stepped on a refs foot and hurt his ankle.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
It was basically nothing. Sixers melted down more than anything. They’ve done absolutely nothing since.

Blazers and Dallas made the conference finals recently. Did those mean anything? Trading for Trae because he made that ECF years ago is silly as hell. We have a much bigger body of work to use every other season.
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You can make excuses and asterisks for anything. Nobody is trading for Trae specifically because he made an ECF don’t be obtuse.
 
Elizah Huge said:
They quite literally were on the verge of going up 2-1 in the ECF before Trae stepped on a refs foot and hurt his ankle.
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Okay, well anyone else is welcome to blow their wad on a player type whose apex in the history of the league is getting spanked in the finals and never sniffing them again.

I’m good with the Jazz trying to build a real team that lasts.
 
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